Talk:Thomas Massie

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2021

Change profile photo to his nice new family Xmas photo to reflect the most recent reality.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/r8xubt/christmas_photo_of_us_house_of_representatives/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf SeriouslywtfUSA (talk) 02:46, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Such a great human SeriouslywtfUSA (talk) 02:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The photo needs to have a compatible license. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:42, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@SeriouslywtfUSA Sadly some don't see that photo and its message as negative. --Ordinarymatter (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Ordinarymatter, ScottishFinnishRadish was quite clear that the content of the image wasn't the issue, merely that the image does not have the correct copyright licensing for Wikipedia. Curbon7 (talk) 18:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7 I didn't criticize ScottishFinnishRadish for his reply. And I didn't imply that he's pro-gun. I assumed that SeriouslywtfUSA is for more gun control and relayed to SeriouslywtfUSA that the effect of this photo could be counter-productive. --Ordinarymatter (talk) 18:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

For gun control it is much better to pay attention to the words: "Merry Christmas! 🎄 ps. Santa, please bring ammo."[1] Because even those who don't have a problem with guns do have a problem with Santa, please bring ammo. --Ordinarymatter (talk) 18:30, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Proof: [2] --Ordinarymatter (talk) 18:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7 Regarding your recent edit: I'm OK with a reset to the version of ScottishFinnishRadish (or my following version) when you get the point that my post was in no way against ScottishFinnishRadish.--Ordinarymatter (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Regarding ...talk pages are not forums to praise/criticize what a politician does...: This issue is not about a personal misstep, it is about a main faultline in U.S. politics. In my previous post I cited the twitter reply from Adam Kinzinger a fellow Republican. And I think that even most of those Republicans who are against Adam Kinzinger are only pro-gun due to the necessities of an imperfect world.--Ordinarymatter (talk) 19:54, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Massie best known for Xmas firearms message

An editor has sought to downplay the significance of Massie's statement of december 2021, deleting it from the introduction, consigning it to one sentence under "personal". This is clearly not a mere personal matter: it was a message to all, a public act, but a politician. By virtue of both national and global coverage, this is now plainly what he's best known for and, indeed for most, the only thing he's known for. That makes it appropriate to the introduction. Discussion by editors would be helpful, I think. Dreamwoven (talk) 08:46, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

To me, it sticks out like a sore thumb when I read the intro section as something that doesn't belong there. He's had a 9 year career in the U.S. House and said/done a lot of controversial things. I would argue his actions to force Congress to convene during the early days of COVID-19 attracted more media attention and were much more consequential. I don't really think any of these things should be included in the intro section though. The main purpose of the intro section is to summarize what is in the body of the article.--Jamesy0627144 (talk) 16:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Dreamwoven, this is WP:RECENTISM, pure and simple. He is not "best known" for that picture. It is not significant enough for the lead. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Xinjiang vote

Thomas Massie was the only member of the house to vote against blocking imports from forced labor in Xinjiang, that seems pretty notable (https://www.cbs58.com/news/house-passes-bill-blocking-imports-of-products-produced-by-forced-labor-in-chinas-xinjiang-region)

Could this be added to the article somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:88:300:E180:181E:F290:E60C:7E3B (talk) 06:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Done. 98.123.38.211 (talk) 22:51, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Twitter Christmas photo

An IP editor recently removed a paragraph describing Massie's 2021 Christmas message which they described as "irrelevant information that did not fit the context of the article subheading". This seems to me quite likely to be relevant, given that it received national media attention, and if it doesn't fit under the "Personal life" header this is a problem that's easily solved. Sources in addition to the two previously cited could be added, e.g. The Guardian, BBC, NBC, NPR. I'd be interested to know what others think. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

It's a family photo he shared so seems appropriate for the "Personal life" section. I went ahead and restored it.--Jamesy0627144 (talk) 21:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

2023 Israeli voting

The bill was about equating antizionism with antisemitism, so that people could be punish for practicing it. It definantely was not about "Israeli right to exist". 195.164.141.186 (talk) 07:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: how Massie voted in the first impeachment of U.S. president Donald Trump and the second impeachment of U.S. president Donald Trump. 98.123.38.211 (talk) 22:51, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Why would that matter? Dimadick (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)