Talk:Thomas Danforth/Archive 1

Archive 1

Clean up

These Danforths should be broken out into their own entries, and not be under their uncle, brother, or father.

Also: Thomas D. was deputy-governor, not governor.

I note that this entire entry is lifted wholesale from the Appleton's Cyclopedia (a public domain work, but of significant age). See [http://www.famousamericans.net/thomasdanforth/]

I cleaned up the article. I removed the other Danforth relatives and adding some links. The main paragraph is still a direct quotation of this [http://www.famousamericans.net/thomasdanforth/], so it needs to be added to and taken away as seen fit. Yep that's it. Good luck Thmars10 06:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Samuel Danforth as Associate Pastor at Roxbury

Thomas Weld left the post in Roxbury in 1641 to become the colony's agent in England. It remained vacant until Samuel Danforth assumed it in 1650. Danforth remained in Cambridge until that time. His official position was "Pastor" and that of John Eliot was "Teaching Elder."

GA Review

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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 19:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• I'll review this soon! MathewTownsend (talk) 19:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

review

Interesting if complicated reading for me - I'm unfamiliar with most of the article's content. I don't really know much about Puritans.

• Lede could be expanded some to be more descriptive - like what was Danforth's religious beliefs?

• "colonial Massachusetts. He served for many years as one of the colony's" - "colonial Massachusetts" to me doesn't mean a specific colony, but "the colony's" is used in the next sentence Clarified Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "when in real life" - when historical evidence indicates? or some other wording? Rephrased Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "violating bans from the colony" - they were banned from the colony and violated the ban - or are you using "bans" in the sense of breaking religious rules? Clarified Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "a conservative declaration that the colonial government was essentially sovereign except where its laws conflicted with English law." - I'm not familiar with English law regarding religion but didn't they have some? did the monarchy control the English church?

• "Danforth's politics and religion were relatively conservative" - could be more specific about what relatively conservative means in this case?

• "were sent to England to argue the colony's case" - which was what?

• " Colonial agents then purchased the territory" - again, this seems vague to me as weren't there other colonies? - the Colony's agents?

• "King Philip's War" - perhaps a little more explanation of what this war was, as the reader might assume that some king of England, Spain or whatever was involved somehow.

• would a little context for linked names be ok? - it would give more of a sense of what was happening - e.g. magistrate Simon Bradstreet, Puritan missionary John Eliot, etc. Readers like me need all the help we can get to understand the situation

• "refused to make changes to its administration that were demanded by King Charles" - like what changes were demanded?

• link "Dominion of New England" in the article body (some people like me don't read infoboxes) Fixed Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "In 1686 the Dominion of New England was established" - who established it? Clarified Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "excluded Danforth from their councils, given his opposition to crown authority" - clarify why - was the Dominion a crown colony? - readers shouldn't have to click on every link to get the picture.
  • I've added some words here, but I thought it was clear that (1) the dominion governors were appointed by the crown, and (2) Danforth already had a track record of opposing crown control of the colony. Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• "Salem End Road in Framingham is now in the area where they settled" - the importance of this isn't clear until later in the article - it just seems like an unnecessary detail the way it's presented here.
  • I couldn't find a better place to put it; I supposed it could go under a legacy umbrella, but it seemed more appropriate to mention it here than elsewhere. Magic♪piano 18:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

An interesting insight into the times. I don't see any other issues.

Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 18:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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   a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic:

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• Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 20:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Arthur Miller's Danforth

Arthur Miller, in his play the Crucible, seems to have confused Danforth with Stoughton. Let's hope some future playwright doesn't confuse Bob Dylan with Joseph McCarthy. --Jgolden 17:51, 3 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliegolden (talk • contribs)

Who has concluded his use of Danforth was in error (as opposed to intentional)? Certainly not the early 20th century sources you cite... Magic♪piano 19:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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