Talk:Thoas (king of Lemnos)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Paul August in topic Maron as Brother of Thoas

Phanus as "brother" of Thoas edit

I've removed the recent addition of Phanus as a "brother" of Thoas. Apollodorus, 1.9.1 says that the Argonauts Phanus and Staphylus were sons of Dionysus. And other sources (including Apollodorus himself) say that Thoas and Staphylus were the son of Dionysus. But we can't conclude from these two facts that this means that Phanus and Thoas were ever considered to be brothers, since that would be OR per WP:SYNTH.

Moreover, many historical Greek families traced their descent to Dionysus, creating many various lines of descent, if taken all together this would create many many "brothers" of Thoas. Also the Argonauts (and so Phantus) were in the younger generation which came after Thoas, with Thoas' daughter Hypsipyle being Queen of Lemnos at the time of the Argonauts visit to Lemnos, so it is unlikely that a brother of Thoas would have been an Argonaut. And surely if one of the Agonauts was a brother of Thoas, then Hypsipyle would be his niece, and surely this would have figured in the story of the Argonauts visit, but of course it doesn't. Paul August 12:04, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Maron as Brother of Thoas edit

For similar reasons given above for Phanus, I don’t think we should mention Maron as a brother of Thoas. Theophilus of Antioch, ‘’To Autolycus’’ 7, mentions several of the historical families which claimed descent from Bacchus / Dionysus, which I referred to above in connection with Phanus. As was the case there I don’t think we can conclude that all of these lineages were ever considered to be all one family. So I don’t think we should mention all these supposed sons of Dionysus as brothers of Thoas. Paul August 12:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply