Talk:Theodor Weissenberger/GA1

Latest comment: 9 years ago by MisterBee1966 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 04:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

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1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  • Prose check

Lead Y

Early life and career Y

  • suggest a lang template for the first translation in the section Deutscher Luftsportverband
  • suggest He joined the military service of the Luftwaffe
  • the rank equivalents being used are unclear. US English is being used, so I assumed USAAF rank equivalents would be used. According to Aircraft of the Luftwaffe, 1935-1945: An Illustrated Guide (2009) p. 75, Feldwebel was equivalent to USAAF Technical Sergeant, Oberfeldwebel to USAAF Master Sergeant. Suggest putting rank equivalents in notes rather than in parentheses, to reduce clutter and improve flow of the prose.
    • Is the table below the Awards section sufficient to address the equivalency of ranks?MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
      • I don't think so. Because you (and I) use the "native" rank names, people read them and wonder what the equivalent is at that point. Notes allow them to hover over the note and get the info they want without having to look at the bottom. Of course, the ranks that don't relate to the subject aren't in that table either. There are also still a couple that aren't accurate equivalents (Junior Staff Sergeant and Senior Staff Sergeant). I've found that notes don't interrupt the flow of the prose so much. I'm not insisting on the notes, just that all equivalents are accurate.
        • Okay, I removed them altogether. Notes have to be placed after punctuation marks, if I am not mistaken. I am unsure if this helps the reader much because the note may not be placed where the information may be needed. Articles like Werner Mölders went to FAC without any translations, I guess that this is acceptable? MisterBee1966 (talk) 10:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

World War II Y

  • suggest Weissenberger was posted to a front-line unit on 27 August 1941, "Two years later" being explicit in the date.
  • worth adding that the Continuation War was fighting between the Soviets and the Finns.

War on the Arctic Front Y

Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross Y

Oak Leaves to the Knight's Cross Y

Combat on the Western Front Y

Flying the Messerschmitt Me 262 Y

Later life Y

Awards Y

Wehrmachtbericht references Y

  • the second ref mentions the Ostfront, but the victory was on the Western Front?

Dates of rank Y

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  7. Overall assessment. Placing on hold for seven days for remaining comments to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 07:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC) Passing now, remaining comments are not an obstacle to GA.Reply

A couple of suggestions for A-Class by Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 09:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

  • notes for the rank equivalents
  • place a bit more focus on the number of "ace-in-a-day" events. Perhaps by putting them in a table or by noting using ordinals which one each was ie "This was the fifth occasion on which he achieved "ace-in-a-day" status." or similar.
  • suggest dropping (1st Group) etc when you established the first translation of Gruppe. ie no need to repeat for 1st Group, 3rd Group.
  • suggest a table with his victories.