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editWasn't their song "The Way I Feel Inside" featured in The Life Aquatic?
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Citations & References
editSee Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 06:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm disappointed that the article does not mention that the Zombies appear in Otto Preminger's 1965 thriller "Bunny Lake Is Missing." They appear on a TV program that the characters watch while talking in a pub, and their songs occur at various points during the soundtrack of the movie. The article should mention this. Maccb (talk) 23:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)maccbMaccb (talk) 23:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Then why not add it ? RGCorris (talk) 12:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Britpop
editI have deleted "Britpop" from the genre list; the relevant article clearly states that Britpop was a movement of the 1990s influenced by bands of the 1960s and 1970s, and as being an influence on a genre does not make a band part of that genre, the Zombies are not Britpop.Kallionae (talk) 01:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Fully agree, don't know how that got there in the first place (confused with Brit invasion?) Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Psychedelic
editOn 15th March 216.160.54.93 added this note -
"The box on the upper right hand corner listed The Zombies as "psychedelic". Whomever put that in has no knowledge of such things, because The Zombies were the most straight-laced of British beat bands and never even approached the psychedelic sound."
While the comment is true for their music, the cover of Odessey and Oracle had a very psychedelic feel to it ! RGCorris (talk) 12:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it's pretty obvious that Odessey & Oracle is a psychedelic album. Just listen to it, it's a masterful piece filled with excitement, happiness, confusion, uncertainty, and melancholy that simulates the psychedelic experience. Psychedelic music isn't just about trying to recreate the experience of "tripping out" on some psychedelic drug like LSD, as many think (This music is more likely to fall under the Acid rock category), but to induce emotions that overtake and encompass the listener. The Zombies' unique brand of lyric wit and daring arrangement expanded the limits of pop, hence Psychedelic pop. Every song on Odessey & Oracle album induces feelings and emotions that send the listener on a journey. While it wasn't exactly "freakout" music, like the psychedelic sound of Hendrix, The Doors, and Jefferson Airplane, Odyssey & Oracle is still notable for its experimental compositions. JuanitoEstaAqui (talk) 08:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it only shares some aspects of psychedelia but I'm sure I've read critics refer to it as so and the album cover is as psych as hell! Even the Wiki article refers to it as "a broad set...of styles". I reckon we leave it in, it's only a label after all! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Best CDs currently available section
editI recognise that the contents of this section are potentially useful to readers, but isn't it inherently biased? Who is saying what constitutes "best" here? --David Edgar (talk) 11:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
can WP get its act together?
editwhile you people are quibbling about Odessy and Oracle being "psychedelic" - which it is definitely not - why don't you read another relevant article, on colin blunstone which states " After the amicable split of the band, shortly after completing the baroque pop classic LP ".76.67.127.29 (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Singles - UK or US release dates?
editI was thinking of tidying up the singles list a bit but I was just wondering, are we counting the UK singles or the US singles as the Zombies main releases? At the moment it seems to be a bit of a mix up with the first few singles giving the UK release dates but them switching to the US releases dates later on. I was thinking that the UK release dates should be the ones shown (they are a British group afterall) but they were more popular in the US, so I'm not sure. Would that also mean that songs such as "Just Out of Reach"/"Remember You" should be switched around, because in the US "Just Out of Reach" was the A-side, but "Remember You" was in the UK? (Note: My source is the Discography as per the booklet that comes with Zombie Heaven). Ste900R (talk) 17:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
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editi may be wrong but
the length of the 1991–present section contains far too much irrelevant and distracting information in my opinion
but that's just me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.87.160.144 (talk) 06:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
The Zombies ARE an English rock band
editI have changed "The Zombies is an English rock band" to "The Zombies are an English band". The Zombies take verbs in plural in both English & American English. Nite-Sirk (talk) 21:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
- That is actually very debatable - bands, like sports teams, are ... I forget the term ... composite noun, something like that, which can takes a singular verb despite the plural-ness of the name. After all, this isn't about a whole bunch of brains-eating zombies but about a single entity called The Zombies. But the grammar rule isn't absolute. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 00:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Well, in American English, one uses the plural if the subject is the band name and the band name is explicitly plural ("The Smashing Pumpkins are a band"); if the band name is singular, one uses the singular ("Pearl Jam is a band"). In British English, however, one would use the plural in both cases ("The Rolling Stones are a rock band", "Iron Maiden are a heavy metal band"). Nite-Sirk (talk) 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that it is debatable, and grammar rules are not absolute. It has to do with the way one thinks of the noun, so say it as you think it. The name of a band can be taken as just a name, much as the title of a book, rather than that each member is to be identified as such. Abstrator (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Well, in American English, one uses the plural if the subject is the band name and the band name is explicitly plural ("The Smashing Pumpkins are a band"); if the band name is singular, one uses the singular ("Pearl Jam is a band"). In British English, however, one would use the plural in both cases ("The Rolling Stones are a rock band", "Iron Maiden are a heavy metal band"). Nite-Sirk (talk) 02:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Another Correction?
edit"Their choice of names was out of desperation..."
Shouldn't that be "Their choice of names WERE out of desperation?" Is this an British thing (like the above correction)? "Were" is for plural use and the "names" are plural. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albabe (talk • contribs) 00:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
No, because it's their *choice* which is singular. Was is correct. Potkettle (talk) 13:29, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Who is "he"?
editPost Zombies, first paragraph, last sentence. Who is "he"? Abstrator (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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Using BuzzFeed as a source....?
editWhen discussing the Zombies impersonator groups after the band's break-up, a BuzzFeed article is used as a source... I think a better source should be found Ibenami (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
When did this band form exactly?
editThe body of the article says the band formed in 1962; the timeline and membership section has every original member in the band in 1958. Can someone with some definitive info fix the discrepancy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.192.245 (talk) 14:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I share the same confusion. The 1958 date has been removed from the article, but the article still contradicts itself. The lead says the band formed in 1960. The infobox says it's 1961, and the member timeline appears to begin in 1961. The text says that some of the members jammed together in 1961, but that the band formed in 1962.
- In terms of sources, a quick Google search shows some sources that list a 1961 date and others that list a 1962 date. AllMusic.com hedges on the matter by saying that the band formed in the early 1960s. The "About" section of the band's official website is silent on the matter.
- I am going to remove the formation date from the lead and make other edits that reflect the ambiguity that exists. Amandil21 (talk) 04:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- It's looking to me as though more sources favor 1961 as a formation date than 1962, but I'm not sure enough to pick one over the other. Anyone have any input? Amandil21 (talk) 04:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)