Talk:The True Cost

Content

Gabriel Yuji In response to your request for a copy-edit of this article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I have just finished copy-editing the article. I had to make quite a few revisions to sentences in order to make them clear. There is one sentence, however, that I could not quite figure out. It is this sentence, which appears in the fifth paragraph in The True Cost#Content:

• Ball-Young says that in comparison to other more precarious alternative work, the fashion industry is a good choice they do.

I even made one change to this sentence (see revision history) which I hope was in the direction of what was meant, but I couldn't go any further without it being a complete guess. The main problem is the last part: "is a good choice they do". It is ungrammatical. Who is "they"? Do you mean "the fashion industry is a good choice for workers"?

Please go through the revision history and look carefully at all the changes I made to be sure that I did not introduce any errors and that it conveys the information the way you want it to. Let me know if you have any questions. Corinne (talk) 04:01, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it refers to the workers. And I've checked through your revisions and it's all fine. Thank you very much! Gabriel Yuji (talk) 06:10, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Just in case I didn't thank you earlier, thank you, and you are welcome! Corinne (talk) 19:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Caption

Gabriel Yuji - I think this caption:

• Rana Plaza collapse in Bangladesh was both the pivotal event arousing Morgan's interest in making a film about the garment industry and a fact explored to support one of the documentary's main points: poor working conditions in developing countries are the fulcrum of its industry.

is too long. I realize that you want the connection to the text to be clear. You do see that the image is pretty close to the sentence mentioning the building collapse (end of second paragraph in The True Cost#Content). But how about this more concise version, which I think is a compromise between your very long version and a very short version?

• The Rana Plaza collapse, an event that sparked Morgan's interest in making the film, is explored as an example of poor working conditions in developing countries.

– Corinne (talk) 19:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Good alternative, Corinne! I tried to make it more concise but wasn't able to do so. Feel free to implement your suggestion. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:44, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Gabriel Yuji O.K. Great! I'll do that now. Corinne (talk) 20:47, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Cannes Film Festival

Did the film premiere at the 2015 Cannes Film Festival as stated twice in the article, or did it premiered at Cannes as a side screening, during the film festival. There is a difference that makes a PR/marketing stunt we should be careful of. I can't find any reliable source confirming the film was part of the Official Selection or parallel sections as ACID, Directors' Fortnight or International Critics' Week. If you find any please do add the reference. I tagged the first occurrence. Giorgio69 (talk) 12:11, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

After Gabriel Yuji reverted my edit requesting for a formal reference to the selection to Cannes Film festival, I thoroughly investigated the matter. It is now certain the film was premiered at Cannes during the film festival, but as a PR stunt, not as part of any official or parallel selections. It is absent from the 2015 Official Selection or parallel sections as ACID, Directors' Fortnight and International Critics' Week (check the wikipedia article on the 2015 Cannes Film Festival for the films that did officially premiered there). The official website for the film does not even show the official laurels off. The wording of being "premiered at" CFF should thus not be used in such occasion due to the prestige awarded to such premieres, when not accurate. In order to keep the tone of the article neutral and not reporting on this PR stunt, I am slightly changing the wording related to this premiere. Giorgio69 (talk) 11:35, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, Giorgio69, I didn't notice you brought this issue here, so I just reverted. Also, thank you for clarifying the film screening. I mean, the two sources ([1], [[2]) I used didn't specify this fact, so I just assumed it was a regular entry. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 17:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Academic analysis or as academic source

• https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=14907490256645602634&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5
• https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=2120715779859406877&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5
• https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315003034_Pink_Ribbons_Interview_with_Samantha_King
• http://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/sites/default/files/Global%20Policy%20Book%20and%20Film%20Review%20List%20Winter%202015-16.pdf
• Bullfrog link indicates several sources

Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Other sources

• http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-true-cost-cheap-clothes-documentary-20150528-story.html
• http://www.salon.com/2015/06/12/this_is_a_very_painful_reality_the_staggering_human_and_environmental_cost_of_fast_fashion/
• https://www.thecut.com/2015/05/can-we-ever-break-our-grip-on-fast-fashion.html
• https://www.yahoo.com/style/livia-firth-wants-you-to-know-the-true-cost-of-120782339153.html
• http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/the-true-cost-tom-ford-colin-firth-stephen-jones-10136592/
• http://www.talkhouse.com/anna-martemucci-hollidaysburg-talks-andrew-morgans-the-true-cost/
• https://www.bustle.com/articles/86517-the-true-cost-film-exposes-the-ugly-prices-we-pay-for-cheap-clothing
• https://www.digitaltrends.com/business/a-documentary-funded-by-kickstarter-unstitches-the-horrors-of-the-clothing-industry/
• http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/22/news/economy/true-cost-clothing/
• http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nell-minow/the-true-cost-of-fashion-_b_7300380.html

Gabriel Yuji (talk) 06:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Citations make no sense

I'm trying to understand how the citations work in this article. Every single citation in the footnotes is to a film review as far as I can see. None of the citations in the content section support the hypotheses in the subject matter. They don't even seem to mention the subject at hand let alone corroborate it. Am I missing something? Murraybiscuit (talk) 08:58, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

This article is about a film, so the citations are to reliable sources that discuss the film, its personnel, production and reception and so on. There's no requirement to cite reliable sources that solely or mainly discuss the topic that the film is about. MPS1992 (talk) 12:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

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