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![]() | The Rules of the Game has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: November 29, 2016. (Reviewed version). |
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Reviewer: Ssven2 (talk · contribs) 08:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
I will review this article, thank you. Looks good at first glance. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Lead
edit- "1939 French film directed by Jean Renoir and starring Nora Gregor, Paulette Dubost, Mila Parély, Marcel Dalio, Julien Carette, Roland Toutain, Gaston Modot, Pierre Magnier and Renoir." — Too long a sentence. Maybe like this: "1939 French film directed by Jean Renoir. The film features an ensemble cast of Nora Gregor, Paulette Dubost, Mila Parély, Marcel Dalio, Julien Carette, Roland Toutain, Gaston Modot, Pierre Magnier and Renoir."
- It would be good if you just wrote "See Cast" (like the Star Trek FAs) instead of mentioning all the names in the infobox there. Looks a bit bloated.
Plot
edit- Well-written. Within the 400-700 limit. Addresses the points about the film perfectly.
Cast
edit- Can you add a source to show the details of the cast members? (Use the cast section of FA articles like Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge, Chandralekha (1948 film) and Mayabazar as reference to see what I mean.) :-)
Production
edit- "He was also anxious about the Munich agreement and the strong possibility of another world war, and wanted to film a "happy dream."" — Kind of vague here. Is it that he wanted people to leave the theatres with a smile on their faces rather than worry about the then impending WWII?
- "such as the works of Marivaux, Beaumarchais and especially Musset's" — Even if wikilinked, their full names ought to be there for those who may not be familiar with them.
- "Renoir re-wrote the character Christine for the Austrian actress and fell in love with her during pre-production." — Did he really fall in love with her or was it just based on the words of his colleagues?
- "But the cast and crew admired Renoir and enjoyed the carefree atmosphere on set, forgetting about the impending political situation." — Starting with "But" looks a tad non-grammatical. Perhaps, "The cast and crew however admired Renoir and enjoyed the carefree atmosphere on set, forgetting about the impending political situation."?
- "Renoir arranged the blocking first then acted in the scenes" — What is "blocking"? Make it more clearer for those who may not be familiar with the term.
- "Jay pushed Renoir to finish location filming in Sologne and move the production to the sets built for it at the Pathé studios in Joinville." — Something simpler like "Jay pushed Renoir to finish filming in Sologne and move the production to sets erected at the Pathé studios in Joinville."
- Wikilink "B-roll footage" or add a sourced footnote explaining what it means if a wikilink is not available.
- "Film historian Gerald Mast said Gregor's performance was "as haunting and bewitching as a plastic giraffe."" — Can be rephrased as "Film historian Gerald Mast found Gregor's performance to be "as haunting and bewitching as a plastic giraffe.""
- "Overall the film was nine and a half weeks over schedule when in finally wrapped in June" — Can be rephrased as "The principal photography was nine and a half weeks over schedule when it was finally wrapped in June."
Release
edit- "Renoir later said he thought the film would be marketable." — Do you mean to say that Renoir believe that he could find commercial success instead of critical acclaim?
Rediscovery
edit- Couldn't find any fault here. Well-written.
Themes
edit- "The Rules of the Game is remembered as a commentary on the moral callousness of the European upper class and their servants just before the beginning of World War II." — Is it present in reference #43? If not, do mention a reference/source for it.
- Richard Roud's quote can be explained rather than putting it as a big quote. Bergan's quote about the animals can be explained a bit as well.
Style
edit- "David Thomson said" — Mention who he is and on what topic/subject he is saying before stating "David Thomson said". :-)
Legacy
edit- David Thomson, Gerald Mast and Francois Truffaut are wikilinked again. Do remove the links (per WP:OVERLINK).
- Wikilink Robert Altman.
- This section has a lot of "XX said XX" and "XX called the film XX". Try to make it more different for some of them who commented on the film more.
- Worked on this. Maybe not exactly what you had in mind but I think its improved. Let me know what you think.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:26, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- A lot better. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
References
edit- Some redirects and dead links are present. Please fix them.
- Add the access date for #1, #65, #117.
- Add the date for #64.
- Issue- so the date listed on the webpage in December 31, 1938. Which is almost a year before the film was released. Now it does appear to be the review from its initial release and "December 31, 1939" may be accurate. I'd be more comfortable just putting "1939".--Deoliveirafan (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- That's alright. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Add the publication and access dates for #137.
- Done.
Cutting this out. I added the original Francis Vanoye source which includes all the films listed in the sentence. Someone else added on this source.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 22:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)I was wrong and I fixed it.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- British Film Institute can be linked just once. That should suffice.
@Deoliveirafan: Overall, the article looks quite well-written. It was a pleasure to read it. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 12:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2:I have fixed or worked on everything on your list. I am not the greatest at rules, but books definitely do not need an access date right? I would be happy to work with you on any more improvements.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Deoliveirafan: Books don't but online references do. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- One last thing - "The film had an elaborate advertising campaign that began one week before its release in anticipation of it becoming another hit film for Renoir. This campaign included a promotional crossword puzzle published three days before the film's opening night; the prize for solving the puzzle was free tickets." — This is unsourced. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- It was split into two paragraphs at some point, but it is the same source as the next paragraph.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 14:58, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- A. Has an appropriate reference section:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall: Passed, my queries were met and solved by the nominator.
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
@Deoliveirafan: Congratulations! Renoir's masterpiece has passed. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 15:53, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Deep focus and moving long shots as “sophisticated” techniques in 1939
editAnyone who has been following the recent rediscovery of the restored riches of the silent film era is likely to do a double-take at this statement and wish for a description beyond “sophisticated,” a subjective term that may suggest “unprecedented.” There is no citation, so there is no article to provide in-depth explanation. As we now know, film makers of the sound era reinvented many tools and techniques of the art that silent era film makers had already used. In fact, some film makers of the sound era have been credited with being the “first”—always a dangerous term—when they were not. One example is the crab dolly, whose invention was long credited to Vincente Minnelli. In fact, James Wong Howe created and used a crab dolly (perhaps it could be described as “the first known crab dolly.”) as early as 1927.
So I would suggest a little more on this subjective term, or at least a usable citation.