Talk:The Right (Italy)

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Is this Wiki- or Checcopedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.222.77.105 (talk) 13:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved DrKiernan (talk) 20:30, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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The Right → The Right (Italy) – Because "the right" is usually used to refer to right-wing politics or politicians in general, I think that The Right should redirect to Right-wing politics, just as The right does currently. The party of this name from Italy could be disambiguated in the usual way. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

• Rename per nom, though, "the right" is also used to indicate particular rights -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 04:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support, astonishing. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support move to The Right (Italy) rather than any article renames.--Autospark (talk) 09:19, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support per nom. bd2412 T 15:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support. I noticed this edit and was about to propose the very same move. older ≠ wiser 23:04, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support I doubt that the average reader would be looking for this particular political party if they typed The Right.--69.157.252.247 (talk) 01:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
• Strong support per nom and 69.157.252.247. --Checco (talk) 11:22, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
• Support, in effect there is also a german party called "The Right" (Die Rechte)--Maremmano (talk) 20:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

• Comment My adding a hatnote at right-wing politics for the redirect the right keeps getting deleted. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

propose move

• Comment The WP:COMMONNAME/WP:OFFICIALNAME of the party is "La Destra".

See: http://www.ladestra.com/ and Google search: site:www.ladestra.com "the right".

Gregkaye (talk) 08:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

The Right → La Destra.

Pinging Good Ol’factory, In ictu oculi, Autospark, bd2412, older ≠ wiser, Checco, Maremmano, 65.94.169.222

Gregkaye (talk) 08:00, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

add: none of the articles citations mention "The Right", only "copyright" and "rights reserved". Gregkaye (talk) 08:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

We need to finish this "requested move" first. By the way, I strongly oppose Gregkaye's proposal, which is totally inconsistent with most articles about political parties, which usually adopt English names—and, in this case, the translation is not controversial at all. --Checco (talk) 08:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Fair comment ty, although I think totally inconsistent greatly misrepresents the actual situation - see: Category:Political parties in Italy. For instance: all the "North League" parties are titled "Liga Nord ..." Gregkaye (talk) 08:15, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Forza Italia, Lega Nord and parties including forza or lega/liga in their name are the few exceptions. --Checco (talk) 10:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

• Support as nom. Gregkaye (talk) 08:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

• Comment what would you do with "The Right"? and the right? Add a hatnote to handle the right is currently being disputed at talk:right-wing politics (where the redirect "the right" leads) -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 10:43, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
• Answer to Gregkaye: if a translation isn't controversial, I prefer it. Forza Italia can't be literally translated, therefore the original name is the best. Instead I don't really understand why Lega Nord & company retain the italian name, even their names should be translated! --Maremmano (talk) 19:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
• @Maremmano: TY. I have added Wikipedia:Naming conventions (political parties) to see also @ WP:COMMONNAME and to bullets @ WP:OFFICIALNAME. These main texts gave no indication of such conventions and all this was new to me. Gregkaye (talk) 00:22, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
  • See Right-wing politics#History which stated that "The Right has gone through five distinct historical stages..." long before this discussion arose. I would redirect "The Right" to that article, or to Right (disambiguation). bd2412 T 03:15, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

I agree on the new title (The Right (Italy)), but I disagree on the redirect to Right-wing politics because there is also an article ("The" Right), for me it should be a disambiguation page (there is also a german party with this name, also if its page isn't present in en.wiki) --Maremmano (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I think I agree with Maremmano. Most redirects need to be redirected here. --Checco (talk) 17:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)