Talk:The Plot to Hack America

Latest comment: 6 months ago by 2601:1C2:600:B280:DCDC:9229:7722:9AE1 in topic Reception section terribly biased
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 10, 2017.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the book The Plot to Hack America by Malcolm Nance (pictured) describes Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections?
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strange phrasing edit

Didn't know what to make of this...

Nance describes how, in March 2016, Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers were hacked by culprits seeking opposition research on Donald Trump.

Does anyone see this as a correct summary? On him? I thought oppo research was meant to harm people. Wasn't the harm from the leak done to democrats?

Was this possibly intended as "for Donald Trump"?

He wasn't presumptive nominee until May 4 or official until July 19 so I'm a bit confused why a hack in March could be seen as for the benefit of a candidate who hadn't won the Republican primaries yet. ScratchMarshall (talk) 09:42, 1 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

@ScratchMarshall:It was to find IFF the DNC had opposition research on Trump. Preemptively. To see what damage might be done in the future, and prepare against it, in advance, before it happened. Get it? Sagecandor (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Ah, it would be valuable to explain this in the article then.

How did author know this was motive of the March hack? Was Trump even leading at that point? ScratchMarshall (talk) 21:23, 1 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

This is not a discussion forum page. This is a page to discuss improving the Wikipedia article about the book. This section under discussion is a contents summary of the book itself. No more, no less. Sagecandor (talk) 21:30, 1 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Further reading entries edit

Noting that 3 (of 6) entries are for books with WP articles, the best place for them is a simple title listing in the See also section. For the remaining 3, they are dated starting in 1984. Thus they are problematic as WP:REFSPAM. – S. Rich (talk) 22:13, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Removed all three. DIFF. Sagecandor (talk) 02:44, 12 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

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This article needs to be re-written edit

So does anyone else not see the problem of sourcing the book or interviews with Nance as a source for Nance's evidence for the claims he makes in this book? There is so much conspiracy theory at work in this book full of information Nance pulled out of his ass.

I am going to go through and remove sections as you cannot source the book itself and present it as if it is anything factual. Pformenti (talk) 05:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Reception section terribly biased edit

I don't know if the book is accurate or correct, but I do know it's argument highly controversial (at least in it's most strongly stated forms), yet none of this controversy is mentioned in the Wikipedia article, not even in the reception section. in fact the reception section is filled with over the top language praising the book (like saying a reviewer was "effusive" in praising the book) without necessarily documenting that the reviews matched the description of the reviews. 2601:1C2:600:B280:DCDC:9229:7722:9AE1 (talk) 19:14, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Reply