Talk:The Monsters in the Morning

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Segments section

I wanted to start a discussion to get some consensus on the segments section. In an effort to shake some of the deadwood out of the article, I started to have a look around and found that the segments section contains items that are fairly common to a lot of hot talk and/or "morning zoo" formats of radio. Do we think that this info is unique enough to the Monsters for inclusion in the article? - JaKaL! (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It's not so much that it makes them unique, as to what defines the show. Rhoadrunner (talk) 13:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I can see that. My fear is that these sections may not pique the interests of people that aren't already fans of the show. There are other radio show based articles that don't include this level of information. See the Opie and Anthony & Howard Stern articles for examples; they're not GA's or FA's but the wikiradio project gives them both a B for quality which places them pretty close. Furthermore, I think the former format section describes the show a bit better than a list of the daily segments. - JaKaL! (talk) 13:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

This is late, but see WP:FAN for more details. - JaKaL! (talk) 13:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Cast section(s)

I think the the current and former cast sections are getting big enough to deserve their own main articles with summaries remaining here. I can start this unless someone has an objection. JaKaL! (talk) 13:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Orlando radio vs. Chicago TV

Apparently, there is no connection between the subject of this article -- an Orlando-based radio show -- and a short-lived Chicago TV show of the same name. The following sources do not describe a radio show hosted by Russ "Triple R" Rollins at WTKS-FM/Orlando, but rather a morning TV show hosted by Dan Jiggetts and Mike North at WBBM-TV/Chicago:

1. Lazare, Lewis (December 12, 2008). "Morning monsters". The Chicago Sun-Times. Retrieved 12 August 2013.
2. Rosenthal, Phil (November 1, 2009). "'Monsters in the Morning' sent to graveyard by Comcast SportsNet Chicago". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 12 August 2013.
3. Feder, Robert (December 3, 2009). "Can 'Monsters' bring Channel 2 back from the dead?". WBEZ. Retrieved 12 August 2013.
4. Cox, Ted (January 9, 2009). "Ready for return of 'Monsters'". Daily Herald (Arlington Heights, IL). Retrieved 12 August 2013.
5. Rosenthal, Phil (January 13, 2009). "Debut of 'Monsters in the Morning' a snooz". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 12 August 2013.
   

I will be removing these sources, as well as any references to the "Monsters" show in Chicago, unless someone can show they belong here. Levdr1lp / talk 09:51, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

some additional WP:RS, to add to the current batch

WP:N coverage in St. Petersburg Times '04, (borderline FMQB.com '05), Orlando Sentinel '06/'09/'12, AllAccess.com '09, (borderline BayNews9.com '11), Orlando Weekly '12, (borderline MyNews13.com '13), maybe RadioInsight.com '14, plus WP:NOTEWORTHY mentions in '00/'01/'05/'11/'11/'11/'12/'12/'13/'13 magazines and books.

1. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2000 book.[1] "Talk Show Yearbook: A Guide to the Nation's Most Influential" by R.Savidge, ‎G.Licamele, ‎K.Schrichte.
2. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2001 book.[2] "Cockpit Confessions of an Airline Pilot" by Stephen G. Keshner (Fiction). "...decided to rent an Avis Car, crank up the radio to 'Monsters of the Midday,' (104.1 out of Orlando), and drive down..."
3. first WP:N, 2004. currently[3] ref#1_A. 2004, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Wz5SAAAAIBAJ&sjid=4XgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4148,6122537&dq=monsters-in-the-morning&hl=en Bancroft, Collette (Jul 20, 2004). "Monsters Tone Down Meanness". St. Petersburg Times. 1_B. WP:N, 2004 newspaper.[4] Specifically about The Monsters, 1500 words. Different journalist as 1_A, but same publisher. 1_C. Followup story.[5] Follow-up story, again specifically about The Monsters, 650 words. Second story confirms that the show was in Tampa on WXTB starting in Mar'04, not just Orlando on WTKS since 1995/1993. St Petersburg Times is now owned by a conglomerate, definitely WP:RS.[6][7] Story picked up, with commentary, by international blog.[8][9]
4. (see spTimes above... distinct? next year), currently[10] ref#2(aka1_D). 2005, http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=59938 "WXTB Cuts "Monsters" Morning Show".
5. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2005 book.[11] "Power Media Bluebook: W/ Talk Show Guest Directory" by Mitchell P. Davis. ... Monsters of the Midday — WTKS-FM ... (( under Maitland FL ))
6. second WP:N, currently[12] ref#7(aka6_B). 2006, newspaper. Scott Maxwell (Jun 8, 2006). "Not married -- but still a great pair". Orlando Sentinel.
7. (see Sentinel above... distinct? three years later) currently[13] ref#6(aka6_A). 2009, newspaper. Scott Maxwell. "Scott Maxwell: Taking Names Blog - OrlandoSentinel.com". Blogs.orlandosentinel.com.
8. third WP:N, 2009 online newspaper.[14]. Qualifies as WP:RS.[15][16]
9. borderline WP:N, 2011 teevee.[17] Breast cancer fundraiser, a "big annual event". WP:RS.[18]
10. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2011 magazine.[19] Awarded #2 in the Best Morning Radio Team category, and (separately) #2 in the Best Radio Talk Show category. Qualifies as WP:RS, [20][21]
11. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2011 magazine.[22] PDF page 7, printed page 12, mentions Monsters WTKS, quotes cast-member Tiffany Martin aka Dollface (three sentences). Qualifies as WP:RS, see PDF page 3, printed page 5, lists publisher Mocomm Inc, two named publishers, plus a contributing editor.
12. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2011 book.[books.google.com/books?isbn=1583944265] "Eros Ascending: The Life-Transforming Power of Sacred Sexuality" by John Maxwell Taylor. "...I was invited to be a guest speaker on Monsters of the Midday, a radio show in..."
13. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2012 government publication.[23] Two sentences explaining that The Monsters started this gun-buyback event "more than a decade ago." City of Daytona Beach PD.[24]
14. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2012 book.[25] "Top 10 Orlando" (Travel) by C.Tunstall, ‎J.Tunstall. "WTKS 104.1-FM The weekday schedule of this radio station is filled with local talk radio personalities hosting shows including 'Monsters in the Morning'..."
15. fourth WP:N, currently[26] ref#5(aka6_D/5_A). 2012 magazine.[27] by Erin Sullivan. currently[28] ref#8(aka6_C/5_B). 2012, newspaper. Jon Busdeker (November 27, 2012). "Real Radio's Daniel Dennis leaves Monsters in the Morning show amid contract disagreement". Orlando Sentinel. (different author than first two Sentinel-sources). Same story on local blog.[29][30]
16. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2013, magazine.[31]. Noteworthy event.
17. borderline WP:N (or WP:NOTEWORTHY), 2013 teevee in city#1, teevee in city#2, newspaper.[32] Four sentences, 3 about organizers The Monsters, one about previous year's total. WP:RS.[33] Spin-off event in another city, over in Titusville, with WP:NOTEWORTHY mention of Monsters. [34][35]
18. WP:NOTEWORTHY, 2013 newspaper.[36] Human interest story, two mentions plus a photo. WP:RS.[37]
19. maybe fifth WP:N, currently[38] ref#3_A. 2014, http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/84485/clear-channel-sells-siriusxm-stake-stations-to-leave-service/ Currently[39] ref#3_B. 2014, http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/86383/siriusxm-adjusting-lineup-z100kiis-fm-come-to-sirius/ About the end of XM simulcasting.
20. WP:NOTBLOG, currently[40] ref#4. Monsters Biography. Cflradio.net. Blog/fansite, but has very detailed info; not a reference, but good candidate for an external-link per the exception in WP:LINKFARM.

HTH. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 18:43, 18 January 2014 (UTC)