Talk:The Living Tombstone

Very Clear The Subject of This Article Wrote The Whole Thing

This is written like a puff piece about the band and how much attention they've gotten from various internet sources. The validity of this band (as it's just a youtube channels that follow children's trends to gain clicks) is questionable, and may warrant deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.161.192.15 (talk) 20:47, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Notability of The Living Tombstone

The Living Tombstone is notable because they meet the criteria for WP:WEBCRIT, WP:BAND, and WP:GNG, in that there's enough significant coverage of the band along with the songs and videos they make in publications such as NME, LA Weekly, Insider, IGN, Shacknews, Gamekult and Polygon - all of which should be reliable per WP:VG/RS, WP:RSPSS and WP:A/S. Also, the claim that they’re the internet's biggest gaming band should be a strong indicator of notability in and of itself, considering it came from one of most reputable music and media outlets - NME. One could argue that it's puffery, but I disagree with this as it's perfectly in line with WP:NPOV in that it's the attributed assertion of the publication (compare to the "Bringers of Death" example on WP:PUFF).

Overall, I did the best I could with the draft, so I’m submitting via AfC. If you have any concerns or comments, I would appreciate it if you would let me know here first before officially reviewing. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 04:05, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Topic: Missing music from the article, downplaying of validity as an artist

Many songs and the notable group 'TwentyTen' TLT was a part of are missing fully from the article. Some related example songs (links removed due to perceived wiki restrictions about youtube):

TwentyTen - Moving On [Bring Da LULZ, Mic The Microphone, The Living Tombstone, WoodenToaster/Glaze, Amethyst(?)]

Lost On The Moon feat. Rina Chan [WoodenToaster + The Living Tombstone]

Not sure where else to put this topic, but there's a lot more info that should be used to show the importance of TLT's role in the MLP music community, as in that era the iconic sound Yoav and collaborators produced is quite notable in understanding how TLT grew an audience and have their current sound. It seems that the article is made to show only 'certified' songs without a definition to what that means, but I hope that it can be expanded to get a better understanding of TLT's importance.

This article comes across as fairly wrong with it's beginning statement:

Where he created a remix of one of the songs featured on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. After the remix garnered several thousand views, Landau eventually shifted his focus to various video game communities, creating songs based on video games.

as it de-legitimizes so much other work TLT has done by saying there's just a singular unspecified mlp remix that gained all the popularity, although the song Discord does have high importance.

The questioning of validity of this band in an above talk comment is in bad taste, as the band as I've seen it has only made music about what they have been interested in themselves, and have had songs 'Five Night at Freddy's' & ' My Ordinary Life' go gold & platinum in the US. Most of Yoav's IMDB projects also lack any mention and could add a lot more due background knowledge. 'Bronies: The Extremely Unexpected Adult Fans of My Little Pony' is a related and unmentioned documentary from 2012 featuring Yoav that expresses the enjoyment of MLP fans in a community people too often want to brush off as being only for children.

Zero_One:Deluxe contains Demo songs that can be found on the TLT Archive Youtube channel which is notable as while being a fan of TLT it's noticeable in older TLT videos like 'Comments - Song - Run, Shoot, Kill... and Cry' Yoav is found to be self conscious of his singing voice after reading a critical comment, and helps explain why he wouldn't have been confident in sharing much of the process before final mastering, before sharing the channel with artist Sam Haft, who likely pushed to share the demo. From early TLT there did seem to be a dramatic shift where Yoav used a lot more processing on vocals or had collaborated with someone else entirely when FNAF songs started to release, and it was amazing as well as a lesson in ways to hear the insecurities that were opened up about in the lyrics within Zero:One while using fully original characters rather then the usual use of fandom influence.

Healz4Life (talk) 16:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)