Talk:The Karate Kid Part II

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Possible Goofs

Is this a goof? Wouldn't Chozen's use of hollow weights benefit the seller (the villagers) and not the buyer? For example, the villagers would be selling 10 pounds of carrots to Chozen, but in reality only giving him 8 pounds because the 10 pound weight only weighs 8 pounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsirjojo (talk • contribs) 17:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe you are correct. This should be pointed out, and maybe should be added to the trivia section or be in a goofs section. 2S 21:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)2S

Unless a reliable source points that out, we cannot put it into the article. As editors, our opinions outside of plot summaries are not usable as sources. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

No. If you raise the amount of what is produced you can actually lower it's cost because the greater amount actually devalues the product. Supply and demand basically states that when the supply of something in demand is low then that product can be sold at a much higher value while when the supply is high the value drops. By making it appear the villagers are bringing in more produce than they really are Chozen is devaluing the produce they are trying to sell, allowing him to pay less for it. It's not a goof. -anonymous 10/12/13 10:34 PM EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.130.137 (talk) 02:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Chozen is a coward

Could it be interpreted that Chozen didn't help Daniel because he is afraid? During the typhoon he seemed reluctant to help Daniel because of the perilous situation than anything else. He also didn't go back to help his uncle. So could it be that the entire movie with Chozen calling Daniel a coward, that he was the actual coward? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.236.216.155 (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Chozen is afraid and showing his cowardice, yes. But I believe the real point of the scene was to reinforce that Chozen is the atypical bully. The atypical bully is a coward at heart who very typically has little to no honor. As long as their in control everything is great. But whenever that control is taken from them their reaction is either one of fear or out right cowardice depending on just how badly they don't have control of the situation. Chozen's facing two elements of a loss of control during the typoon, the loss of his sponsor and the typhoon itself. Consider how often movies and TV series will depict the atypical bully as always working for someone more powerful, this person is what I'm calling their sponsor; their usually the person who gives the atypical bully their power and sense of control. If the sponsor becomes incapacitated, killed, or believed to be dead then the atypical bully is already going to have a reason to be afraid. In Chozen's case, his uncle Sato is his sponsor and when his dojo collapse on him Chozen, like the atypical bully he is, views this to mean he's dead. Without his sponsor and without any sense of control because of the storm Chozen resorts to the basic atypical bully nature of cowardice. This also means that he is going to view Daniel's actions as dishonoring him rather than admitting it is his own actions that are bringing him dishonor. -anonymous 10/12/2013 10:17 PM EST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.130.137 (talk) 02:17, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Let's nip this bit of forum-chat in the bud: do we have a reliable, verifiable source that discusses the character's motivations? If not, we are not allowed to Sherlock it out for the reader, since we as editors and contributors are not reliable sources of fact. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 22:15, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. Andrewa (talk) 08:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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• The Karate Kid, Part II → The Karate Kid Part II
• The Karate Kid, Part III → The Karate Kid Part III

– The title does not include a comma. 1.32.70.254 (talk) 03:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Comment: I added the move request at Talk:The Karate Kid, Part III#Requested move into this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 14:41, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Wikiquotes Link

The Wikiquote link for anyone who is interested in adding it (I cannot figure out how to do it myself) is https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid,_Part_II LReyome254 (talk) 01:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC)