Talk:The Holocaust in Poland/Archives/2016/February

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Poeticbent in topic Citation request

Citation request

If anyone can provide a cite for "The Polish underground resistance, the Armia Krajowa (Home Army, AK) and the Communist People's Army (AL) opposed collaboration in German anti-Jewish persecution, and punished it by death.", I can reassess this article as a B-class; and I think we should send it to WP:GAN next. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

One isn't able to formulate opposed collaboration in German anti-Jewish persecution in Communist language. Any anti-Soviet activity was a crime, so any collaboration witn Germans was a crime but a Communist collaboration was O.K., compare Bogusław Hrynkiewicz. Xx236 (talk) 11:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I have trouble understating the relevance of your reply to my question. Can you or anyone provide sources to support that sentence, or should we remove it? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
The Communist People's Army (AL) wasn't able to formulate such a problem because of its ideology.Xx236 (talk) 06:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Interesting. But citation needed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry I was wrong, I meant the PPR/GL. According to http://www.sww.w.szu.pl/index.php?id=polska_armia_ludowa the KRN decided that the AL should punish anti-Jewish activities. If it was real or propaganda, I don't know. Please compare pl:Tadeusz Maj (pułkownik). Xx236 (talk) 09:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Since GL was so small, it's of little importance. Any sources for AK? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:54, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
  • In the above article: http://www.sww.w.szu.pl/index.php?id=polska_armia_ludowa Mateusz Łabuz (2005) quotes a manifesto published by communist KRN (Krajowa Rada Narodowa) founded on 1 January 1944 in which punishment for collaboration with Germany was mentioned. KRN created Armia Ludowa (the communist People's Army) in its very first decree and appointed gen. Michał Rola-Żymierski as its leader. However, by that time the Holocaust was over, hundreds of towns were deserted, and over 90% of Polish Jews turned into ashes. The Soviets were all over Poland. The declaration was meaningless. Poeticbent talk 12:26, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Addendum: Please take a look at the article pl:Wojskowy Sąd Specjalny in Polish Wikipedia. There's a list of references there (some offline) for the Armia Krajowa sentences pronounced for collaboration with the occupier. The Jewish victims are not elaborated on, but the illustration shows an underground poster informing about the punishment by death for the denunciation of Jews. Poeticbent talk 19:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)