Talk:The Gobbledy Gooker/GA1
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Reviewer: DasallmächtigeJ (talk · contribs) 11:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
One of wrestling's most obscure characters. Will take a deeper look into the article over the week, but two things that should be added right of the bat:
- an infobox, f.e. for fictional characters or the one for wrestlers that lists all information on the character (debut, who portrayed him etc.)
- a "Creation and conception" section, e.g. what was the general idea behind the character, why was the costume chosen etc. The legacy section already contains some of that, should be moved.
Aside from that, the article looks fine at first glance.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 11:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking this on. Feel free to take your time, I've made the changes you've suggested so far.LM2000 (talk) 14:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
1. Is it well written?
editLead
edit- "The character is a turkey mascot, portrayed by a wrestler in a bird costume." --> rephrase that, saying that a turkey character is portrayed in a bird costume seems self-explanatory to me.
- Merged with introductory sentence, I think it reads better.
- I would start a new paragraph beginning with "It subsequently"
- Done
Development
edit- Concept and creation should be a level 2 headline as per manual of style.
- Done
- Point out that Survivor Series takes place around Thanksgiving, hence the turkey.
- Done
- Are there specific sources relating to the design of the costume? I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember that they made certain design choices so that Guererro could wrestle in full costume...
- I've read (and put in the article) that they always wanted him to be a wrestler. But Guerrero talks about having trouble seeing out of the head. There must be a story about miscommunication between WWF and the costume makers but I'm not sure if it has been told publicly.
- I would include a picture of the egg or even a GIF of the Gooker hatching in the article, as it is mentioned a lot. Maybe replace Gulak or Guererro.
- Done. I moved Guerrero's picture to Legacy, since he's mentioned many times. Let me know if you don't think it belongs though.
- "mostly without incident" means without getting booed? Could need some clarification.
- Rephrased.
- "Gimmick Battle Royale" link the word gimmick to the corresponding article.
- Done
- Put everything relating to Gulak into one paragraph.
- Done
Legacy
edit- Use some hedge/bridge words like furthermore etc. Most sentences start with "XY listed/called" etc. Switch things up a bit.
- Done
- Did the Gooker appear in video games, as an NPC or playable character? If so, it should be listed.
- It looks like people create him sometimes but no official releases. There was apparently an action figure that appeared at some convention at one point. I'm not sure if it was a joke or not but it never got released and no sources reported on it, otherwise I would've mentioned it.
- Well, it was worth a try, I thought he might be one of the few hundred playable characters in the newer games...--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:34, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- It looks like people create him sometimes but no official releases. There was apparently an action figure that appeared at some convention at one point. I'm not sure if it was a joke or not but it never got released and no sources reported on it, otherwise I would've mentioned it.
All in all, only a few minor things to be addressed.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
editAll sources check out and are reliable, partly reliable sources such as Bleacher Report were chosen with care.
Nevertheless, I would source the claim that it was intended to be a long-running character in Hector Guerrero portrayal, paragraph 2.
--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Rephrased to something that was already sourced and established.LM2000 (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
3. Is it broad in its coverage?
editAgree --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
4. Is it neutral?
editAgree --DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
5. Is it stable?
editAgree As the character only appears every few Thanksgivings, yes.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
6. Is it illustrated?
editAgree Everything about the pictures checks out. As mentioned earlier, think about replacing one of them with the egg. Or move Guerrero and Gulak into one picture and add the egg.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Conclusion
editThe article should pass as soon as the points above are addressed.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- I believe I've addressed all of your concerns. Thanks again.LM2000 (talk) 19:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Good work, I've passed your article just now.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 09:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)