Talk:The Edge/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Encyclopedia style for names

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Hello. The subject of this article is named David Howell Evans , but the article calls him 'The Edge' throughout. 'The Edge' is his chosen stage name, but proper encyclopedic style should be to use his last name to refer to him in the text. Compare articles about Mixed Martial Arts fighters -- they are properly described by their last names rather than by their chosen nick-names. Or compare the article on 50 cent, which correctly refers to him by his last name 'Jackson'. Accordingly I think that general references to the subject in the text should be changed from 'The Edge' to 'Evans'. 174.91.146.116 (talk) 03:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: The article is not protected, but I'd recommend seeking consensus before making that change. Celestra (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

It's not a stage name, it's a nickname he's had since secondary school and before U2 were formed. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't actually affect the argument at all.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  01:54, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

The Edge and Muse

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 – Fixed.

Though he's played as a guest guitarist with Muse for one song, he's not associated with them. It was just a collaboration. It's no different than when Bono sings with someone for a given song. --Teancum (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

As of July 2014 at least, Muse is no longer listed as associated with him.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  02:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

New picture for infobox

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 – No consensus emerged to replace the infobox image with the proposed one.

I think this picture is a lot better and the edge is looking straight to the camera. Can anyone replace it??? 430px-The_Edge_2011.jpg Miss Bono (talk) 13:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I think the previous one of him playing guitar more accurately portrays who he is, the new one has a very distracting Spiderman behind him!Theroadislong (talk) 14:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I found once a picture of The edge with a guitar of the Music Rising Project. It was really nice, but i can't find it now. Can you help on that??? Miss Bono (talk) 14:55, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

It was here but it doesnt allow me to post it... http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeda:TheEdge.jpg Miss Bono (talk) 15:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

It's not on the English Wikipedia don't know if that's the problem?Theroadislong (talk) 15:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

That image is non-free and is presumably being used with a free use rationale. Where free images are available (e.g. anything on Commons), they should be used before non-free content. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 17:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Morleigh Steinberg

Disregard

 – Moot and off-topic.

I think Morleigh deserves to have an article for her work as a coregrapher.  Miss Bono (zootalk) 19:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Like the article Morleigh Steinberg?  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  01:56, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Syntax

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 – Both fixed.

Both of these sentences are just terrible.

"The reason for this dual identity was mainly to be understood by my peers, but also to be accepted."- the guitar player said. [4] The Edge, Dave Evans back then, attended St Andrew's National School.

Cosprings (talk) 18:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Both passages have been changed. But surely you can simply edit the article yourself to improve it? Minor wording tweaks do not need talk page sections for prior discussion.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  01:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Origin of his stage name?

Why did he choose to be known as "The Edge"? The lack of explanation seems like a pretty significant oversight in terms of article content. Bono's article explains the origin of his nickname quickly and effectively, so it would only make sense to do the same here. ☉ nbmatt 05:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Keyboards

Keyboards are not a primary instrument and should not be listed in the infobox, this should be, and is listed here. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:28, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Well known as a keyboardist

Is Edge known mainly as a keyboardist ? Per the infobox documentation, only the "main" instrument(s) the artist is know for goes into the infobox, I don't believe he is mainly known for anything but guitar. Nobody is saying he doesn't play the keyboard, he's just not well known for it. Mlpearc (open channel) 15:33, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

The Edge has played piano/keys/synths on every album of U2's except their debut. He usually plays several songs on piano/keys for each of the band's shows, sometimes playing guitar and keys simultaneously. I wouldn't label it a secondary instrument despite U2's songs featuring more guitars than keyboards. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 16:05, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

His keyboard playing is already mentioned here, Other instruments. Mlpearc (open channel) 16:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

His guitar playing and vocals already have sections, too, though. Why should we let the current structure of the article dictate whether keyboards goes in the infobox or not? Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 17:22, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

We're not, the infobox documentation and his main instruments are. Mlpearc (open channel) 17:50, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Just for the record, I agree with Y2kcrazyjoker4. No, The Edge is not known for keyboards, but I feel that he plays them so frequently that it should be considered as one of his main instruments to be listed in the infobox. When the band has keyboards in a song, it's typically The Edge playing (not every time, but most of the time). It's not like he played them once during a concert or in only one song. He plays them all the time.Hollyjoann (talk) 09:39, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 29 June 2016

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The result of the move request was: not moved.(non-admin closure) Eventhorizon51 ^(talk) 14:25, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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• The Edge → The Edge (musician)
• The Edge (disambiguation) → The Edge

– Primary topics exist, but "The Edge" is so generic that there can't be one and he is not immediately associated with this name. Searches give him no prominence over "The Edge (1997 film)". MelanieLamont (talk) 06:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose. Other topics having to do with edges of things are not "the" edge, capitalised. This topic is disambiguated satisfactorily by both the capitalisation of "The" and by the capitalisation of the following word "Edge". Binksternet (talk) 07:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
  • For what it's worth, there are many topics on Wikipedia also called "the edge" with the same capitals as this fellow, such as the film the nom mentions. Nohomersryan (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose: a mediocre 1997 movie can hardly compare as primary topic to the immensely successful 40-year career of the well known musician. A useful hatnote already exists. ww2censor (talk) 09:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose The musician and the 1997 film both get almost the same amount of pageviews, but I think the musician is probably more significant and human beings should take prominence over media in most cases, so I'm going to oppose. Nohomersryan (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support: If the film and the musician get about the same number of visit, the musicial is no longer the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, even if he maybe once was. Emotive venting like the above about whether the film is "mediocre" and how great the musician is are WP:POV pushing and WP:IDONTLIKEIT/WP:ILIKEIT pseudo-arguments.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  22:16, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
• Neutral. Not sure which way to lean on this one. Over the past year the musician has recieved double the average page views of the film [1], though this is inflated somewhat by a surge of interest last December. Also worth mentioning that Edge (wrestler) gets significantly more page views than either. PC78 (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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Gibson SG

I've seen The Edge use a Gibson SG, why is it not in his "Notable Instruments"? --123.2.142.50 (talk) 06:52, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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What do 'origins' mean?

I notice that you insist on the Edge's 'origin' should be recorded as Dublin, when neither he or his parents are Dublin born. If the title was 'musical origin' then I could understand the entry but as he was born in England I would argue that it is either factually incorrect or a deliberate attempt to re-write history - which seems a bit pointless given the article already declares his date and place of birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Groucho54 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Please see the Template:Infobox musical artist for details:

“ The town, city etc., from which the group or musician originated (that is, the place where the group was founded, or where the individual performer started their career, should it not match the location of their birth). If the place is not known, specify at least the country. For "United States" and "United Kingdom", it is preferred that they be abbreviated "U.S." and "UK", but political subdivisions should never be (never "MA" for "Massachusetts", "ON" for "Ontario", etc.). See Notes for details. Do not add a flag icon. Omit the country if it does not differ from that specified at the field "birth_place". ”

Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 17:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)