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Anyone heard of any of the journalist that was at the press conference in may 2001? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.57.155.44 (talk • contribs) 16:26, September 30, 2005 (UTC)
Is the "Mission" a direct quote from TDP, or is it someone's interpretation of their mission ? If the latter, shouldn't the UFO presence be "alleged" or "supposed" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GeraldH (talk • contribs) 17:08, March 17, 2006 (UTC)
- The human mind/soul needs 'ascension' and 'physical recycling'. Dec-22-2012 is supposed to be the date (end of Mayan calendar). Human minds/souls are in extreme disharmony with itself, with nature, and the rest of this 'physical' universe, and under suicidal worship of matter and physical. For sake of all the suffering (human) minds/souls (beyond comprehension and negating all possible definitions of justice), as well as the rest of the (consciousness in/of this) universe/infoverse..., humans need to be recycled. Whatever is willing and ready to ascend into pure-energy-vehicle (physical form) as one merged human consciousness (the mind/soul driving that pure energetic form in symbiosis with all the information, including that form itself) should ascend, naturally with the 'backup' of all the human morphic fields 'database', containing complete human experience through its entire 'evolution', and human bodies should all be destroyed not to abuse and pollute this planet any more. Ndru01 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.135.109.158 (talk • contribs) 12:45, May 27, 2006 (UTC)
Destroy is not a fact of love, indeed is not a reasonable way for knowledge. That is a common sense, not "new age" delirium. Dharmakaya Nirvana... Meditations ( Do you want to talk?)00:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- It is not real 'destroying' ! Only the physicial vehicle (which is an 'informational illusion' anyways) is 'transformed'. The human race as one merged consciousness will after ascension continue to exist, in a significantly better way. All the previous experiences of human race are already preserved in the Akashic Records. There will be no more entrapment in numerous various physical forms/bodies, but only 1 pure energetic form (capable of manifesting itself in all kinds of superiour ways) as a 'vehicle' for the whole human race, and all new experience will count as OUR/MY/YOUR experience of One super-(new)'human' being (super-conscious entity), whether gained through that (energetic) super-vehicle as a whole, or as some part of it (but always conscious of-, and in harmony with- the Whole)... Ndru01
New Information
Has anyone heard anything new come out of this project since 2004? Ajferrick 15:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1776848428018799270 57 types of species cataloged....also grey aliens are real
- In the folklore, the gray alien are reptilians, cold mind and nothing of love and compassion. Happy Christmas. --DharmaKaya_Nirvana 13:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Major NPOV problem
The article takes a generally credulous tone toward all the claims of Disclosure, without presenting any opposing views (scientists, government agencies).
- I agree, but what has been the government response? The web site itself notes that a few congressmen responded to inquiries but almost no one followed up on it. Even if there is no "official" response, that should be mentioned in the article. Are there skeptics of the disclosure project out there? It seems like there ought to be, and they ought to be mentioned as well. Josh 17:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- [1]. I see no reason why skeptics would have a say?
- [2]. How are you going to counter Astronaut Edgar Mitchell testimony? Do the skeptics retain an anti/neg Edgar Mitchell?
- [3]. I believe the invitation was sent out to attend the function and they did not respond?
- [4]. You need to read the intro again, its a "public class action".Vufors 08:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, there is not a official denay about the afirmation of the disclosure proyect, but there is not the crucial probe: The public presentation of Aliens. Scientific method is necessary in this comments. There are not the indisputables probes about the disclosure project.
In other hand, if we assume the probability of the secret contac between the USA militaries and aliens civilizations, with transfers of tecnology, we can conclude that a culture intervination, under humanity, is beginning, like a special kind of colonization. Really science fiction...or not? Happy Christmas. --DharmaKaya_Nirvana 14:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, we must to create a section in the article with the criticims about the project. Maybe with these paragrahs:
== Criticims ==
There is not a official denay about the afirmation of the disclosure project, but there is not a final probe: The public presentation of government's files about Aliens. The afirmations of the project don't reach the requirements of the Scientific method and only use testimonies that are not a final probe about the contact between USA government and extraterrial civilizations.
In other hand, the posibility of a secret contact with aliens break the Zoo hypothesis of Frank Drake that is a suppose not extraterrial's intervination or public contact with us for ethic razons.
Well, this section is my proposal. Happy Christmas --DharmaKaya_Nirvana...Meditations 15:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- This is a definite improvement on the existing content. I don't mean to offend the person who wrote the content that's currently out there (on the article's 'Criticims' section), but it is completely unintelligible to me. I would however make a few modifications:
- There are currently no official denials countering the validity of the disclosure project. However, the project also suffers from a lack of scientific credibility. The afirmations of the project don't reach the requirements of the Scientific method, and only use testimonies that do not quantifiably prove contact between the United States government and extraterrial civilizations.
- I would get rid of the second paragraph, which talks about the Zoo hypothesis. I don't really see how it relates to the credibility of The Disclosure Project. I'm sure it has a place in this article, just not in the Criticisms section. --Careax 21:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
What constitutes Evidence?
I have been researching the UFO phenomenon for quite some time now. The Disclosure Project seems to be one of the bravest attempt at coming out in the open by people connected to the Government and the Military.
With regards to the UFO phenomenon, I do not think there is more evidence required to prove they exist. What needs to be proven is if they are Alien Spacecrafts or Secret Military Programs.
One of the most compelling evidence that I have come across is the Airline Pilot transcripts from Black Boxes and the Belgian UFO wave.
When such evidence exists and yet the US Government takes no notice, something is really fishy.