Talk:The Coming Collapse of China

Learn more about this page

This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Books

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.BooksWikipedia:WikiProject BooksTemplate:WikiProject BooksBook articles

China

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the `\|auto=` parameter.

Update edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Gordan Chang's later predictions on the "coming collapse" should be added in the update section, as Gordan is still often interviewed by the media on this.

There's a comment in the talk page for Gordan Chang's article which lists many examples, so I'll copy and paste that comment here:

"Specific predictions and their dates should be added. According to the page on his book, The Coming Collapse of China, he predicted the collapse of China in 2006, 2011, 2012, 2016, and 2017. It appears that his book (written in 2001) predicted the collapse of China between 2006 to 2011. Then in late 2011, he published this Foreign Policy article claiming China would collapse in 2012. I also found this prediction during his 2013 Fox Business appearance where he predicted China would crash in 2013-2014. The 2016 and 2017 predictions I'm not sure about, it could be referring to his 2016 National Interest article, and he does often do interviews where he predicts a coming collapse, such as this one and this one. 101.98.151.109 (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2019 (UTC)"Reply

119.224.86.137 (talk) 22:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's simply a bad book. Not that I don't believe the prediction, that China will fail. But he does not even touch the relevant reasons and cites the wrong ones instead. No wonder that his time schedule proves ridiculous. Western academic "expertise" on China is in a deplorable state. Scientists rely too much on speculation and know too little about the intricacies of everyday life in China - which would provide ample reason to construct a failure theory. Reasons for failure lie in the abyssmally bad legal system (no functioning compulsory execution to get your money, e.g.) and in the growing indebtedness of private households (see report of the San Francisco FED of a few years ago). Equally important is the dwindling trust in the real estate system (clients pay for houses that are to be built later), or the sick health system. Enough has been said about the banks and about the catastrophic education system which ruins parents financially and pupils psychologically. But it's impossible to forecast exactly when Chinese failure will occur. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1210:3ECB:2600:D979:5C3:2416:4F34 (talk) 17:30, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Add topic