Talk:The Begum's Fortune

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I removed a large part of the Plot heading. It contained conjectures, personal opinions, and original research type comments. I saved the last paragraph under a new Influence heading. The other comments could be placed there if they refer to non-original research. Opinions can also be reference there (e.g. John Doe in his famous work on Verne stated that blablabla.)

It's not that I don't agree, or that I don't think the commentary isn't clever (I do agree and think some comments are clever) but they just didn't belong under a Plot heading, or in the form under which they were presented. Cheers Vincent 02:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

From a German perspective, this books appears pretty prophetical, given the nazi tyranny. Even today many Germans I know are actually not conoisseurs, are arrogant and some of them are still racists. Instead of rationally assessing Germany's undisputed strengths (think of Daimler, BMW, Volkswagen, SAP) and weaknesses (think of inflexible labour laws and high unemployment), they tend to see their civilization as the best on earth. For some, the Jewish are still the evil who desires to kill those German icons of industry. The Turkish-descend Germans are often still seen as Turks, even though they hold a German passport.

On the other hand, there are other people, who like Pizza, Tiramisu, Cappucino AND Sauerkraut. These people appreciate their country's weaknesses and strenghts and they believe in universal humanity. Yet, the social current that brought Nazism to power still exists, and it is nicely (just a little stereotypical) depicted by Jules Verne. The relevant word is "little" ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fg (talk • contribs) 23:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

City name

The French name is "France-ville", but the article says "Ville-France" (which sounds weird in French and in English), and the English translation linked from the article says "Frankville" (whereas the city name is, according to the book, an explicit reference to France, a country which as the same name in French and in English!). IMHO only the original name "France-ville" or the litteral translation "France-city" should be used. What do other translations say? Apokrif (talk) 08:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Film

Why is there no mention of the film? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078357/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.149.48.42 (talk) 11:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Geographical location

Two paragraphs of the article now says:

"Verne gives the precise location of Sarrasin's "Ville-France" (France-Ville or Frankville in English translations) – on the Southern Oregon sea shore, eighty kilometres north of Cape Blanco, at 43°11'3" North, 124°41'17" West. This would place it at the southern end of Coos County, Oregon – a county which already existed at the time, though very thinly populated (and remained so, having 62,779 inhabitants as of 2000).

The nearest real-life town seems to be Bandon with a 2,833 population registered in the same 2000 census, located slightly north-east of the site of Ville-France, (see [3]), and which was founded by the Irish peer George Bennet in 1873 – one year after Verne's date for the creation of Ville-France. The Coquille River, at whose southern bank Bandon is located, is presumably the unnamed "small river of sweet mountain waters" which Verne describes as providing Ville-France's water."

Is it verified that Verne used the Greenwich meridian for this novel? In other novels he used the Paris meridian, or even mixed them (I think I have read somewhere that it happened in The Mysterious Island). If we don't know for sure what meridian he used, the above cited part might be removed as mere speculation (or a note on the uncertainty added). Fomalhaut76 (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Article is misleading

Article in its current form is blatantly misleading. Begum's fortune was actually written by exiled French commie Paschal Grousset. Hetzel bought his manuscript, both to support him monetary and also because Verne started falling short on Hetzel's infinite chain publishing plans of Voyages Extraordinaires. Verne somewhat rewrote Grousset's stuff and Hetzel published it under Vernes name, because it was established milking cow brand. So at best it's a collab with Grousset, and maybe even closer to ghostwriting. Same crap was done with supposedly "Verne's" The Vanished Diamond book, but at least on its wiki page Grousset's role is properly revealed. 85.254.73.112 (talk) 20:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)