Talk:The Backyardigans/Archive 1

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Cult Following?

I've noticed that this show is commonly enjoyed by adults and teenagers aswell as children. Perhaps the cult following of this show is too small to be noted? --24.89.225.14 06:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Given the citation and where it comes from, I wouldn't take any fodder from IMDb's message boards as citable. It's clear it does have trans-generational appeal but I feel that there's got to be a better citable source than that! --treelo talk 14:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Episode list

Is the episode list really necessary? For now, with the small number of episodes, it doesn't look like a problem. But in the future, it will probably have to be reduced dramatically or just removed completely. I'd say there are other sites who are likely to keep a better track of the episodes.

Correct... that's why TV.com exists. --Beau99 08:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
If it'll be any good, I might be able to keep a list maintained here. Even if it might be dealt with better elsewhere there's no specific reason why a list can't be maintained in a seperate article if it'll clog this one up. -Treelo 17:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
This is much better than what is currently available on tv.com. It's woefully incomplete. I agree with Treelo that it could be moved to another article if/when necessary. Dharris 16:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the episode list has been stripped from the page? If not, is there any reason why it can't be put back in? DAAdshead 09:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
It got taken out during one of the recent vandalism episodes. But nothing is ever really gone on Wikipedia--you just have to look at the History. It's back now. Nareek 10:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I knew it could be brought back - just not sure how!!!DAAdshead 12:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I would hate to see the episode list completely removed from Wikipedia. If anything, I would agree that it needs its own article. I would even add that I'd like to see more information about each episode... such as the music genre each one uses. --Toadstool1969 (talk) 11:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I added a list of DVDs with the episodes, since they don't go in any order. I followed the TV.com episode guide.Fcolella (talk) 21:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Bad idea, TV.com is barely anymore reliable than Wikipedia is given there is no real factual control beyond that of hoping the people who edit are right. I've removed it as it was taking up a lot of space and wasn't imparting any valuable information you couldn't gain from a search on Amazon. I'm considering giving the episode list a cut too, there is a separate episode list available and duplication is an issue to me. treelo radda 22:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Version differences

Because the UK version has a different set of voice actors and many alterations to "Anglicise" it, would that type of data be suitable for addition to the bottom of the entry or simply put into the right place in the entry and noted to be the UK version?

- Treelo 05:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

I have attempted to show where the Anglicisation of the episodes exists, only when it detracts from the information shown on the page. It seems quite pointless to dictate every variation, otherwise we may as well create seperate pages for the UK and US versions! There are more variations now that someone has - in their wisdom - decided to add the snacks to the bottom of every page. If these edits are deemed unnecessary, I will be happy to see them removed.

Will there be a Backyardigans game?


Can anyone clarify whether the UK DVD releases use the UK or US voice cast? If so could this be added to the DVD Releases section, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.252.171 (talk) 15:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

The UK DVDs (The PAL version) feature the UK voices of Lizzie Waterworth, Maria Darling and Janet James —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gleech (talkcontribs) 23:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Technical Information

One of the things I think is so wonderful about this show is the quality of the music and choreography. The music is actually true to the genre(s) and the characters actually dance.

Indeed, the production values are high. Heck! I get a kick out of some tunes! The stories are well thought out as well. I wish i had my daughter's age... :)

If you watch as the credits flash by, the list of musicians, choreographers and dancers is quite long. It would be nice if this article discussed a little about this. I will do a little research on this when I have the chance, but I invite anybody else to take a first stab at this. Dharris 17:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Updates? Is there any information available about the musical score writing or the musicians? I concur with Dharris about the quality of the music overall and would like to see if this precise information has been found somewhere. Mamadator (talk) 14:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I created the ending credits so all will be recognized! :D KristiYaiullo (talk) 00:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)KristiYaiullo

A philosophical question

Is Austin playing that he's the Ming Emperor, or is he actually being the Ming Emperor? I would argue the latter, since the conceit of the show is that the backyard actually transforms into the setting of whatever adventure they're having that day. When the characters become ghosts, they can actually float through walls--they're not "playing" ghosts in the context of the show, although presumably on some level not depicted on the show, the "real" penguin, hippo etc. are "actually" playing an imaginary game in an ordinary backyard.

I'd say that the stories and settings happen inside the characters' minds, as well as inside the viewers' minds. The show doesn't depend at all on fantasy; instead, it's all imagination and make-believe. If I were to give a more certain answer, I'd say that Austin is being the Ming Emperor without knowing it. :)

SirMustapha 20:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Musical genres

Is there an "official" source for the description of the musical genres? My question is related to the genre for Monster Detectives. At the risk of being pedantic, I believe that Rock and roll is far too broad a category to really describe it, and that Punk would be both more descriptive of the musical style and also recognize the "in-joke for the grownups" of the presence of a Soccer Monster - ie a punk-rock-listening football hooligan. -- Clark, 23 April 2006

In the Backyardigans Episode guide of the Big Cartoon Database (link), there are synopses for each episode, and they include the description for the musical style. That's personally where I took the genres from, as they seem to be the most accurate. As for Mosnter Detectives, in particular, it's not Punk rock. It's 60's rock, more similar to the Beach Boys, Rolling Stones, etc.. It only sounds A BIT like Punk on the faster songs (still far from the Ramones), but tunes like 'The Rules' and 'Get The Job Done' have Blues in them, which definitely takes it back to the 60's. SirMustapha 20:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The opener reminds me a lot of the Ramones, actually. The rest of it is quite a bit more like a folk-rock piece with a Beatles or Kinks worthy hook in the chorus. I can see though that if you only listen to the opener you might think that it's punk rock. Please do note that many of us have a definition of punk rock in our heads which includes "Louie, Louie". ;)
For what it's worth, my 2½ -year-old daughter spent all of yesterday morning kicking a little blue ball around the promenade plantée in Paris while calling herself a "soccer monster". -- MarkJaroski 18:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I would have liked to see an episode with 1980s pop music.Chris 17:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

They did one. I am fairly certain it was "A Giant Problem" where Tasha plays a giant. --Toadstool1969 (talk) 11:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the music for "Robot Rampage" (both parts 1 & 2) is roller disco, unless there is some new (2000's) techno-fied form of it I'm unaware of. Original (and I thought the only) roller disco was from the late '70s/early '80s. The music on Robot Rampage to me mostly sounds like pre-techno electronica souped up a little to sound more like techno and less retro. I do like it however. Shanoman (talk) 17:22, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

That's what it was referred to as on the DVD case; I have to go by what they say. HalfShadow 04:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Uniqua

We have Uniqua identified now as a ladybug--earlier she was called an alien--is there anything definitive on what she's supposed to be? Nareek 13:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Is anyone willing to merge the Uniqua page into this page, or is the intention to develop character pages for all five characters? Perhaps there should be a sub-section for the characters? DAAdshead 14:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
On the latest edit, I wrote in-depth descriptions for the characters, and I'd like to know if those are enough to be considered as a "merge" of Uniqua's article.
Also, while I'm at it, I agree with the previous edit and think the "catchprase" of each episode is exactly what's said at the very end, before the final credits. I decided to add other memorable phrases repeated in some episodes, whenever it's convenient. And finally, and hopefully for the last time, Monster Detectives DOES NOT FEATURE PUNK ROCK. The music in that episode is heavily inspired by the likes of the Beach Boys and Blues Rock acts of the 60's. The soccer monster theme can't be called Punk just because it's fast. SirMustapha 19:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I gather that Uniqua's "a pink insectoid girl." Chris 17:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
It should be merged, I can't see why any character would need a seperate page although one would be practical if each character could actually merit one without it being a stub for a long time. --Treelo 17:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Duly merged, you can counter it if you wish although the information contained on Uniqua's page is fairly redundant amd shouldn't have really been created. --Treelo 17:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Uniqua does NOT belong to any known species. All official sources describe her as "one-of-a-kind", "Uniqua by name and species", etc.. I thought her name was descriptive enough. SirMustapha 15:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

This is it! For the record, Uniqua is a type of insect. Not necessarily a ladybug or ant, but an insect. If you all read her official description from Nick Jr. & Nelvana carefully, you'll read that it describes her as "one-of-a-kind," meaning a unique character & personality, NOT species. She is a unique individual. It also says that Uniqua and her antenae only LOOK alien-like, therefore she is not an alien herself. The description says Uniqua is her personal & species name. Go ahead and Google Uniqua, the hits that don't retain to the show are about a baiting insect with the species name Uniqua. I couldn't find a picture though. Not an alien, not a mutant, a Uniqua insect. Case closed. The Backyardigans Rule.--Wikiphilia 04:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, for goodness' sakes, it should be everyone's knowledge at this point that Uniqua's supposed to be devoid of any labels, categories or anything of that kind. Uniqua isn't supposed to be "something", just to remind us that people don't need to be predetermined "things" to be acceptable. That's the point of her character. Finally, I don't think Janice Burgess would have created a character belonging to some ultra-obscure species just to make people research hard to find out what exactly she was. THAT would be an attempt to boggle the minds of the young ones, which doesn't sound too nice.
If Uniqua was any actual known species, she wouldn't be called that. As for being an "unique individual", all five characters are. Also, the article doesn't say she actually looks like an alien. It just says that people have speculated over that possibility, as well as "ant" and "ladybug". I'm not attacking anyone here; I just also think this case should be put to rest, but the answer is what most collaborators here agree with: she's one-of-a-kind in all aspects, and that's exactly what makes her so charming. 200.203.86.95 23:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, guys? Uniqua doesn't really have to BE anything. She can be whatever you imagine her to be. Maybe she doesn't even exist! Maybe she is one of the other Backyardigan's imaginary friends! That makes sense. The show IS about imagination.-- Maximus 19:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but Wikipedia isn't about imagination. We should go with what the source says. Nareek 19:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
This is also the name for the "Great Spirit" of the Cherokee Tribe. The name literally means "Great Being" in Tsalagi.

I always thought Uniqua was some sort of bug because of her antenna. :/ Unintended Disaster 04:48, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

She actually looks like an Axololt =/ 72.50.103.53 (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

As for her antennaes, could they be for listening? She doesn't have any ears. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 18:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but technically, neither does Pablo. She's covered her 'ears' when he hears something loud and she's worn headphones, so she appears to have earholes, like him. I originally thought her antennae might have been ears, but this appears to not be the case. They may just be decorative. HalfShadow 21:50, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody get how Uniqua actually smells? I mean, she doesn't have a nose...I was just wondering, it's not very important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 21:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Good point, but that's another thing that Pablo doesn't have either. And like I mentioned above, she (or Pablo) doesn't seem to have ears either. I think that's just how it works with cartoon characters; things don't have to make sense. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 22:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
penguins dont typically have external ears. ViniTheHat (talk) 17:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Austin

Where did this come from?

"Austin will become a guest character like Sherman the worman rather than a main character during season two and possibly in following seasons, due to his unpopularity with fans of the show and his voice actor being a character in The Fox and the Hound 2.[1]"

The citation leads nowhere significant. Sounds like vandalism to me. SirMustapha 21:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree that it is vandalism. The user popped up on 4 July only to make a number of POV edits to Austin's description and then undid subsequent reverts. The citation you mention is unrelated and predates the vandalism; it refers to all the characters.
One good thing that came out of dealing with the vandalism was that I double-checked Nick Jr. and Corus Entertainment (the parent company of Nelvana, the animators) for a press release by Burgess. Season 2 was ordered, and Austin will be in it. I rephrased the intro paragraph to include reference to the new season and linked to the real press release. --Hriped 16:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

That citation never says that he won't be in it as a guest character. I'm telling the truth, if only I could remember where I found the info. Maybe the site I got the info from was vandalized too, but my goal is not to mess stuff up or give fake info, honest. >_> --anonymous peep

That would be more convincing if your first edits weren't "RAWR!" and "My cat is purring!" Nareek 10:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I never wrote that.
Don't kid yourself, man. Wikipedia keeps record of EVERYTHING users do to the articles, as well as the user's identity (account name or IP). Check it out for yourself, if you wish. If someone else has been using your computer to edit the article, you'll have to figure it out for yourself. As for providing info, try do doublecheck your sources, and if you're not sure, ask here first, so we can check. SirMustapha 18:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree dayle14

Yes, I checked the log and see that it was written by my IP address. However,I didn't write this. Probably my sister or something.

Unpopularity with the fans?!?!?! You can't get away from the Austin fans abound. Unpopularity indeed! Where the heck did you get this info??? --Maximus

From the IMDb, perhaps. ;-) 143.54.34.61 15:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Tyrone

Is anyone besides me slightly worried that he appears to have pockets, considering he isn't wearing anything from the waist down?

Silly question, I know, but I've been having a strange day and it just struck me: he often has his hands in his pockets, but he isn't wearing pants...

I believe that's simply a visual joke, similar to the knight helmets getting right through Tyrone's antlers and Uniqua's antennae on Knights Are Brave And Strong, Pablo removing huge items from the saddlebags, and such other obvious inconsistencies. I always found it particularly delightful, as walking around with his hands in his pockets is such a big mark of Tyrone's reserved personality that the fact that he often doesn't wear anything from the waist down doesn't matter. SirMustapha 16:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Since this is a cartoon, the pockets are in hammerspace. Hriped 00:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it me, or does Tyrone have some really strange ideas about snacks? Celery with Hummus? Cereal bars (Grenola Bars in the US)? OK, I accept that Waffles are OK (not that we know much about them in the UK) but they didn't change that one!) but I'm just wondering whether kids really enjoy Celery with Hummus in the States? In the UK if you tried that on your freinds you'd be ostracised for life!!!

Oh no, hummus and celery is nasty... pretty much worldwide.--Maximus I

Article Cleanup

I think that it's a bit cluttered and lengthy with the episode list only due to get longer so maybe it could be put into tabled to save on space or split off. There's also stuff which seems to read as unneccesary. treelo talk 18:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not actually a particularly long article. If it does start to get overly long, the episodes could be split off, but given that the bulk of the episode list is plot summary and song lists, it's doubtful that a table would save much space. As for the stuff that seems unnecessary--don't keep us in suspense! Nareek 08:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I feel the table would save space and it'd help with readability as right now, most episode lists for other shows are put into tables rather than bulleted lists. As for unneccesary things, some wording seems a bit suspect and extraneous. I'd go over and clean it up myself but as it seems most of my paring would be reverted it'd end up useless. Put it down to basic grammatical errors if it helps out, it does need some form of cleanup even just a minimal one. Should anything I propose seem completely pointless you can give me the infobox at least! --treelo talk 17:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I believe the page could benefit from some clean-up, though I'm sure I'm not the best person for that kind of service. I don't feel comfortable snipping bits and pieces from the page, even those that I *think* should be snipped off. I'm also not an expert on Wikipedia formatting, but I'll try to help when I can. I'd also be very, very, very glad to know why some people just KEEP CHANGING THE SONG TITLES. I must have done that about three times now, hoping people would get the hint. I take the song titles from the Nick Jr. radio, from the official albums and from lyric sheets from that Treehouse website. That is - official sources. So, if the song from The Heart Of The Jungle is called "Where In The World", that one from The Yeti is called "No Such Thing" and the songs from Viking Voyage are titled simply "Viking Song" and "Mermaid Song", I wished that people would leave them like that. I'm not angry, but I hope we can at least settle *that* affair. SirMustapha 16:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be great if anyone who sees things that could be cut would cut them, and sees things that could be improved would improve them. If someone wants to put in an infobox, that's fine with me. I'm still not convinced of the helpfulness of the tags, which seem to suggest that the problems are so glaringly obvious that they don't need to be enumerated. I honestly have seen no signs of a Backyardigans cabal on this page, ready to revert any changes no matter how beneficial. Nareek 16:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Just because the cabal isn't noticeable doesn't mean it doesn't exist! Is a table still out of the question? I'm experimenting with layouts for it so I'll update you later if anyone takes interest. --treelo talk 19:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I dunno, maybe a table would be an improvement--if you could have a big cell for the plot summary and then stacked smaller cells for the song titles.... It might work. Nareek 21:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Still with the episode list, I'm figuring that if it ends up getting too long with or without use of tables that it could be split off into it's own article. I figure it'll happen eventually when the list becomes the largest part of the article but I'm not flagging it to be split unless someone concurs and doesn't feel it amounts to fancruft. Given those things, I'll split it off and be a happy camper. --treelo talk 16:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I have made a minor change to the layout of certain aspects of the page, especially moving certain parts of the Story section into a newly created Trivia Section, to improve the readability. I originally intended to add another part to the Story section, but realised that it was perhaps not important enough, but still vaguely interesting. As this was also true of several otehr parts in this section, I decided to move these and put them in the Trivia section of the article. I was also going to add that Austin never seemed to offer snacks, only to read that in the new Series, this is no longer the case.DAAdshead 11:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
That worked surprisingly well. The page has benefited a great deal from your tinkering, I believe. Most appreciated. SirMustapha 20:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Stop-motion animation

Really? Isn't it overwhelmingly computer generated? Nareek 06:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - according to all external websites the show is "Computer Generated". I have not read or heard of any Stop-Motion Animation being involved in the making of the show.DAAdshead 15:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
To me it's odd anyone even pushed the idea of it being stop-motion, almost like a cheeky sideswipe at the animation quality which can at times seem very rigid and point to point. --treelo talk 19:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
According to Nelvana the show is a 3-D CGI animated show. Josborne2382 15:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Troll?

User has been quite busy, these days, changing the music genre of Monster Detectives to "Punk Rock". It sounds pretty obvious to me already that he's doing this deliberately to drive us up the walls, since we already provided a source for the episode's musical style. He must have done that about half a dozen times already. At first, it seemed like he actually thought it was wrong, but now, I don't believe that. Is there anything that can be done about it? SirMustapha 20:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


She never thought it was wrong. She wanted to drive you up the walls. Uhh, but she will stop if you take her IP off this page. --Maximus I

Interesting how the IP address suddenly changed, and was responsible for both the deletion of the message directly above and the continuation of the Punk Rock saga. What's going on, anyway? Is someone really that intent on changing completely the history of rock music in the past few decades?SirMustapha 20:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You seriously think i like punk rock? aww man, no! imma trolless, not some rock head little boy!

I didn't say you liked it. I merely intended to say you know little or nothing about it. :) Let's get on with more important things. SirMustapha 19:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Sheesh, why won't you just blow up!?!? Forget it, i'm leaving --Maximus I

Splitting episode list

The episode list is now the biggest part of the article and it's only going to get bigger. Are there any objections to spitting it off into a separate article? Nareek 21:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no objections, I only wish to ask how it's going to be done, as it will only be the same size but on a seperate article, is that not a bit of a waste of time and effort? Perhaps, to reduce the size a bit, it might be better to use two new articles, one for each season, which would make the pages smaller and easier to read. Just a suggestion. DAAdshead 10:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I think a list is different from an article; people have different expectations of them. It's not really the total length of the current article that is the problem, but the fact that it starts off as one kind of page and then spends the bulk of its time as another. Nareek 19:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Only now are you mentioning my split-off idea? Nareek, you disappoint me... Well, if we're splitting off, lists can be an arbitary length and you can always just use some clever Wikicode to make it easier to move about using the TOC. If anything I avocate the split! --treelo talk 23:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


VANDALISM!!!

Sorry to shout, here - but is there any way to stop this? The whole article has had to be replaced on numerous occasions and it's getting out of hand now. Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can stop this from happening? Is there a way of blocking edits from non-registered Users. I'm sure I've seen that in other articles. DAAdshead 13:03, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it--it's all being reverted promptly. Nareek 14:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

compare 00:09, 1 March 2007 Ssryry2 (Talk | contribs) to 00:43, 1 March 2007 74.96.24.38 (Talk) (reverting vandalism)

episodes

There is a new episode called Sinbad sails alone.it was on March 2 2007 9:00 AM

Where was it shown??

There is nothing else to support this claim. Suggest you site your evidence. "make your writing verifiable: find a specific person or group who holds that opinion and give a citation to a reputable publication in which they express that opinion." (Wiki Guidlines)



The Vikings episode

What was the name of the episode where the kids pretend they're Vikings? Angie Y. 01:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Vinking Voyage, says the dvd. And now my son hates you for having me stoping the "It's great to be a ghost" so I could see it. *lol* User:Diana Prallon

"High Tea" or "The Tea Party"

I've reverted the change from "High Tea" to "The Tea Party". That's what the title on the screen is, the DVD lists the episode as "High Tea", as do Nickleodeon and Treehouse. "The Tea Party" is an alternate title. Flyguy649 talk contribs 14:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Broken Box?

The tv show box is effing up the article, pushing all else down. Someone needs to figure out why. --Kaz 21:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you see. I have the info box on right, then the ratings box. At the top on the left is the lead section then the table of contents. Then there's a bit of a space and the rest of the article, staring with the Plot. Is that what you mean? Flyguy649 talk contribs 21:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Original Run

I just noticed the 'Orignial Run' said it ended on July 27, 2007. There are a few episodes going to air in the feature like "A Giant Problem". Please allow me to change it.--The cartoon dude 21:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that they are still currently producing new episodes, although I have yet to find a verifiable source to confirm this. Josborne2382 15:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Austin 2

There is a part in the Austin subtopic that states: "Although he is the least-often appearing character, he was voted the second-favorite character in a poll, only behind Pablo." This needs a verifiable reference source...can someone please find it? I tried a Google search, but was unsuccessful. Josborne2382 15:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Books

The original article had a sentence that educational books are set to be released in 2007. Due to the fact that these books are now readily availaile at Amazon as well as through the Scholastic book orders, I changed the sentence to say that the books were released in 2007. I am currently looking dor an article or press release that will verify, but I have not found one yet. If someone can help with a reference there, it would be great! Josborne2382 17:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed Editorial

I removed the part concerning "...some aspects of it may have not been the best choice for a show aimed at such an age..." since this is no more than someone's opinion. Wikipedia is not the forum for a childraising editorial. 67.70.96.80 (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Third Season Episodes

At least 2 of the season three episodes have aired in the US now, although the page still says that they haven't. The two I know of are Flygirl and the Mighty Egg Sitters. Daughtkom (talk) 02:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

What Pablo says

I tried to make this change and it got reverted back, so I am putting it here. What Pablo says is wrong. I watch this show daily and he does freak out every show. It usually goes "oh boy, oh boy (whatever he is freaking out about), oh man, oh man" until someone interrupts him and calms him down with the solution. One of you may want to make that change. Blm0303 (talk) 15:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


Racial makeup of characters

It's worth mentioning at least somewhere that the characters, while just animals, actually have characteristics that correspond to human races. Uniqua, in her name and voice, is "black." Tyrone and Tasha also have traditional black names. Pablo is traditional Hispanic name, and Austin is a common white name. That would make this show one of the most racially diverse on TV, while at the same time being completely non-racial. Jstohler (talk) 09:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It isn't worth noting. In a time where we are trying to celebrate achievements based on traits OTHER than skin color, it would be highly innapropriate to make note of such frivilous things. Just remember, when you attribute successes based on race, you invite the inevitable comparisons to not so favorable achievements by race, which of course are not welcome, so neither should be positive occurences, lets look to other aspects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.76.17 (talk) 15:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it is worth noting -- I was going to note it myself until I saw this section on the talk page. Thanks to my kids I end up watching lots of kid TV and I can't think of any other animated characters that are so obviously American black in voicing despite having nothing racial about their appearances (given that they're pink or orange, etc.). It's unusual enough to seem worth noting. And leave the silly political correctness out of it. It's a simple fact that the characters have those voices and noting that fact without commentary is not a bad thing. My real question would be how to appropriately phrase something like "Uniqua and Tyrone have black voices" which doesn't sound right. There's gotta be a better way to phrase it. Brentkrupp (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Because it's not relevant and is a matter of conjecture. If you can show this is a widely discussed thing where reliable sources have discussed it and at least attested to the characters having any defining ethnicity then fine, otherwise it's your word and opinion against every other editor's word and opinion. I know what you're getting at, I don't really agree given it's hard to apply ethnicity to characters which lack it in the human sense but I wouldn't be able to allow any mention of it in the article in good faith knowing that there's little to back it up besides opinion. treelo radda 14:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


i have to point out a couple things. it is definitely relevant. race is an a global issue and how people of different races are portrayed in the media is as important an issue as ever. just watch disney's dumbo. are those just crows, or are they negative african american caricatures? googling around (granted this is old news at this point) provides you quite a bit of writing on the topic. and if you want to deny that there is intent for the characters to have racial identity, here's an old casting-call for 'tyrone' : http://excoboard.com/exco/archive.php?ac=t&forumid=100713&date=03-10-2007&t=1280406-1

The Backyardigans
Production Company: Nick Jr
Voice Over Casting Director: Leslie Zaslower/Nickelodeon
Union: AFTRA
Email Address: nicknycasting@gmail.com
Shoot/ Start Date: 02/06/2007
Pay- AFTRA SCL contract role
Still Seeking:
SINGING TYRONE. African American 9 to 11 yr boy. (NO OLDER OR YOUNGER PLEASE). This is an animated series - voice only. No ::females or ADULTS will be considered for this role.
MUST BE A GREAT SINGER with an outgoing personality. Tyrone is a moose who is matter-of-fact.
This is now a NATIONWIDE SEARCH! Will hire talent outside of NY area.

while it one may not think it's an issue or simply choose to ignore race, there is nothing wrong or racist about acknowledging race.

again, i know this is quite old.ViniTheHat (talk) 17:20, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Relevance?

Okay, under Plot Setting the following statement (the last sentence) was found and I can't quite make any sense of it. It said:

"Not all of the characters were in each episode because each episode teaches kids to learn value and respect"

It doesn't seem to be understandable at all, they would exclude certain characters to teach respect? Some characters wouldn't appear to teach value? I really don't think this belongs in Plot Setting, especially if anyone can't prove that is the reaon why some characters do not appear in certain episodes.

Someone please get back to me on this. KristiYaiullo (talk) 13:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)KristiYaiullo

I am removing this statement for now because it does not seem to make any sense and no one got back to me on this.KristiYaiullo (talk) 07:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Any edits from random IP with the prefix 69.72.

...should be considered junk edits and reverted on sight.

Examples are:

Because of this IP, List of Backyardigans episodes is under extended semi-protect. To reiterate: any edit from a 69.72. prefix should be immediately auto-reverted. This editor also edits from prefix 208.103., but primarily from 69.72. HalfShadow 22:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

"Dancer" noted for each character?

Uhm, I guess I don't follow what on earth for... this is a computer generated animated show, while I can understand 'voice actor' for each character, it makes absolutely no sense that there is a dancer noted for each character, it is computer generated. Does anyone know what this is about, and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.76.17 (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Why there are dancers noted for each character is within the article itself, sourced even. treelo radda 02:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
They film the dancers, then turn them into a computer image of the Backyardigans. That, way the movements are more realistic. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 22:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Characters and Voice cast section - recent edits unverified

I checked on the characters sections, and found out the thing about the main characters and the supporting characters - all of the Backyardigans, at least in my opinion, are equal, which means you can't just go around calling Tasha and Austin supporting characters. I haven't bothered to find out who did this, but that's just their opinion. They may have had less parts in season one, but that's it. From season 2 on, they definitely count as a main character.

To add to this topic, Pablo isn't in every episode. He's not in Chichen-Itza pizza. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 00:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I guess I took care of the one about Pablo not being in every episode. This info is true. It is not vandalism.Kaboomblahstick (talk) 00:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I changed the description to mirror that. Other than the one episode he is in every other. HalfShadow 22:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

norwegian dub

it airs on the norwegian channel tv 2 on saturdays. check their website tv2.no for more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.74.217 (talk) 10:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Fairwell Backyardigans. I loved your show, but I guess the series has come to its close. Does anybody feel any simpathy for me? ...Eh, probably not. BUT, if you do, please share a word and make me feel better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 01:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Images

I added a bunch of images on the cast page for the main characters of The Backyardigans, it makes it look less bland. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! It looks much brighter and the layout suites "the backyardigans" well. Trust me, I know all about the show, being a huge fan (if I must admit) and by just reading the discription one might imagine the main characters as total freaks without a proper image. Well done! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, where did the character-images go? I thought they were good. Who deleted them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 22:49, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I think somebody got rid of them because they said there were too many of them. That guy suggested a group photo instead to lessen the copyright problems. I think. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 22:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Mmm, sounds perfect. Good thinking! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 19:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Source for Austin being new to the block

I don't remember seeing that in any of the episodes, and Austin was in the first episode (at least according to airdate), right? So where does this come from? The current link ([7]) is broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.5.28.183 (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Nationality of show

Seems to be some dispute here. Given that a Canadian animation studio, Nelvana, and an American animation studio, Nickelodeon, are stated in the article as co-producers it seems logical to assert that this show is a joint production of those two studios. IMDb is not a reliable source for this but does support those two studios as being primary production studios. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

The nationality of the series is American, and the primary producer is Nickelodeon. Conjured as an American series, always been an American series. The "A Nickelodeon Productions" at the end of the credits confirms the series as American.
While, in the credits, Nelvana is said as a confirmed as a co-producer, it's safe to revise the page to "American-Canadian", rather than "Canadian-American." - as in revising American before Canada.
I'm not sure on why Derbundeskanzler has a problem with the series having more of an American-nationality, than a Canadian one - he seems to be aggressive during that. Nickelodeon, and the United States, have contributed much more assets towards the series, as well as series premieres, licensing, and well-branded marketing. Although, majority of benefits should not be attributing to the title of "Canadian-American", but can't deny the facts. American-Canadian. Canadian could be an exception, only because it was confirmed a co-production, but, as previously said, it is more-so an American series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BackyardigansKaibigan (talkcontribs)
As long as both are mentioned the order is a minor issue but listing American first if Nickelodeon is indeed the senior partner in this co-production deal seems reasonable to me. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Nickelodeon did work on the show. The studio in Burbank, California worked on script, creative development, voice work, need I say more? Nelvana, claiming that they produced the entire show is COMPLETELY incorrect; I even double-checked and read the whole page, even tabs, and it said nothing of the sort! IMDB? You're going with that? Also, watch it. Calling me an "angry vandal" is a rude, aggressive title. You must be new here BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 23:53, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Coming in to this issue without any previous knowledge I checked on IMDb for the nationality of the major talent (cast and crew) involved in the creation of the series and it seems universally American for the ones I checked and could find info about. Still would be nice to have better production references. Other shows I've seen with co-production deals usually had talent from both countries credited. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:00, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Burbank is where Nickelodeon Animation Studios is located, and Nelvana is only the animator. You find a source where Nelvana is the creative developer, over Nickelodeon. BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 00:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
The "Canada" logo in the credits… is a logo for a tax credit program. Well, my sources are as follows:
BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 00:09, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I will note that Viacom holds US copyrights for the series. Not sure if the links will work, but here are some examples pulled at random after searching for Backyardigans, which includes some episodes and merchandise: [2][3][4][5] This doesn't exclude Canada as having participated in the production, but it does seem to suggest that Nick didn't license the series, as was claimed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Where did the line producer work? Sara Kamen, at Nickelodeon. Where were the scripts written? According to Dave Palmer's blog, which a source is above, at the Nickelodeon Animation Studios. 'Where were the episodes recorded? Dubway Studios, throughout the entire run. BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 00:41, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Nickelodeon developed the series from the start, with the 1998 pilot. Nickelodeon also produces it. BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2015 (UTC) The series' "aspects" were held by Janice and Nickelodeon, even when the series (even the pilots!) were released. It's American. BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 00:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

It's not like your sources were any more specific. All this, because you are anti-American-origin. Let me tell you a story. I was once a Backyardigans-American-origin-hater myself. Once I realized all the poor things Treehouse TV (owned by Corus, sister of Nelvana) has done, I've seen the full picture. It's time for you to accept the truth as well. BackyardigansKaibigan (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Nickelodeon DID air the complete series, just on two networks: Nickelodeon and Nick Jr. It's not like they passed it down to another network. The full picture is… obviously not what you see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BackyardigansKaibigan (talkcontribs) 01:26, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced age cruft

In these edits [6][7] I removed unsourced assertions about character ages, specifically content that attempts to guess which character is eldest, youngest, etc. This information was recently changed by IP 64.114.24.114 in these edits [8][9] but no new sources were added, which leads me to believe the content is fabricated, i.e as head-canon. The content should not be restored without references. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:18, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Fully protected, two days

Anyone resuming this WP:LAME edit war after protection expires may be looking at a block. --NeilN talk to me 03:12, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Full protection lifted per this. --NeilN talk to me 05:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Images

I added a bunch of images on the cast page for the main characters of The Backyardigans, it makes it look less bland. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! It looks much brighter and the layout suites "the backyardigans" well. Trust me, I know all about the show, being a huge fan (if I must admit) and by just reading the discription one might imagine the main characters as total freaks without a proper image. Well done! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 19:33, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, where did the character-images go? I thought they were good. Who deleted them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.230.200 (talk) 22:49, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I think somebody got rid of them because they said there were too many of them. That guy suggested a group photo instead to lessen the copyright problems. I think. Kaboomblahstick (talk) 22:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC) I added a bunch of images on the cast page for the main characters of The Backyardigans, it makes it look less bland. Monkeys 9711 (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Is there a reason why we don't have pictures anymore?YellowLE333 (talk) 18:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

YellowLE333 You should check the article's edit history. Also I've moved your comment to the bottom of the page since you were responding to a dicussion from 5 years ago. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Plot section copyedit?

The Plot section reads like someone's attempt at a tongue-twister.

The series follows a ritualistic pattern and centers around an assortment of neighboring playmates depicted as bipedal, anthropomorphic animals: Uniqua, Pablo, Tyrone, Austin, and Tasha. Designed to encourage imaginative play, the characters communicate with the viewers by constantly breaking the fourth-wall, albeit the series rests particular focus on the role-playing games in which the friends participate varying with each episode, and said games are visualized through dream sequences lasting for a majority of the episode and serving as the primary focus of that certain episode. Usually, the group will visualize a unique scenario, ranging from prehistoric times to adventurous fantasies, and they are often presented with multiple dilemmas along the way to accomplishing a certain goal or priority, or may be challenged with a major single obstacle to defeat or problem to solve. The program also follows a musical format, featuring multiple musical numbers sung throughout the course of an episode regarding whatever imaginary predicament in which the characters have situated themselves or perhaps a challenge that they have met, every episode opening and concluding with a particular song. When the Backyardigans have achieved their mission or defeated any disadvantages, the fantasy sequence fades, restoring actuality to the setting of the episodes as the closing song is sung, the characters scurrying to their houses for a snack. The main character or characters then opens the snack host's house door, fence, or around the corner, and shouts the main catchphrase for the final time and then closes the door. The picture then is lifeless with some background bird noises often heard as iris closes, ending the episode.

It is seriously over-complicated; some bits, like "bird noises often heard as iris closes", don't even make sense. It also isn't so much about the "plot" (I gather that there is no overarching plot for the series, only on an episode-by-episode basis) as it is about the "patterns", "key traits", or "episode format". I would say a serious copyedit is in order, but I don't have the expertise to do it (because there is so little coherent info in the section right now). Thanks to whoever reads this. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 01:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

@2ReinreB2: I agree. It sounds like took many self-indulgent liberties. Reminds me of the stuff you'd read by a middle-schooler who fancies himself a lawyer-in-the-making. This version from 2011 seems a little less offensive, but is still problematic. The stuff about the "ritualistic pattern" and "bipedal anthropomorphic animals" was added here in 2013, it looks like. The stuff about the iris closing was added in this edit in October 2013. Presumably they meant that as the camera's iris closes, we still hear the birds or whatever. Anyhow, the contributors have been describing the general format/formula of the show, not so much the plot. We don't need to replace the experience of watching the series. Like you, I don't believe there's an overarching plot to describe. So, it might make sense to cut it in the hopes that someone is inspired to figure out a better way to describe the series. It may also not be necessary to include a unique section at all, if the series shape can be summed up in a sentence or two. "The series revolves around animal friends who use their imaginations to solve problems in musical environments." I have no idea if that's what the show is about, but I think you get my point. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:52, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Intended for young children

"The show is intended for children aged 2 to 5." We say this because the source cited says, "The Backyardigans is an animated musical-adventure series for children ages 2 to 5."

I have requested page protection. If the edit warring continues after protection ends we have other options (contacting the ISP (Webe Digital Sdn. Bhd.), a range block, etc.).

You are allowed to watch the show and enjoy it, no matter how old you are. That it was intended for young children is a simple fact. - SummerPhDv2.0 04:15, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

And we're back. Another IP from Malaysia want the show to be for children ages 4 to 12 again. The source still says 2 to 5, so Wikipedia still says 2 to 5. - SummerPhDv2.0 03:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

"The Backyardigans is..."

Yes, the show is no longer being made. However, the show still exists. So, as explained at WP:TVNOW, we say "The Backyardigans is..." not "The Backyardigans was...".

If this message doesn't get through to the IP editor repeatedly changing it to "was", we will have to protect the page from editing. - SummerPhDv2.0 12:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)