Talk:That Still Small Voice

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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 03:23, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Nominator: Ruby 2010/2013

Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have my full review up shortly. --Seabuckthorn  03:23, 17 January 2014 (UTC)Reply


1: Well-written

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      • Major Point 1: Plot "In this episode, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) is deputized … is revealed along with his yearning to leave the family business and transform into the person he wants to be." (not a concise summary of the Plot section)
      • Major Point 1.1: In the characters' past "" (not in the lead)
      • Major Point 1.2: In Storybrooke "In this episode, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) is deputized … is revealed along with his yearning to leave the family business and transform into the person he wants to be." (not a concise summary of the In Storybrooke section)
      • Major Point 2: Production "It was the first Once Upon a Time episode to be written … and I think a lot of people feel like that."[1] (summarised well in the lead.)
      • Major Point 3: Cultural references "" (not in the lead, a layout issue)
      • Major Point 4: Reception "That Still Small Voice" first aired in the United States on … Jiminy's characterization and Sbarge's performance." (not a concise summary of the Reception section, the Reviews subsection should be expanded)
      • Major Point 4.1: Ratings " "That Still Small Voice" first aired in the United States on … among the major networks." (summarised well in the lead)
      • Major Point 4.2: Reviews "Since then, it has garnered generally positive … Jiminy's characterization and Sbarge's performance." (not a concise summary of the Reviews subsection)
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      • Major Point 1: Plot "In this episode, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) is deputized … is revealed along with his yearning to leave the family business and transform into the person he wants to be." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
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      • Major Point 1.2: In Storybrooke "In this episode, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) is deputized … is revealed along with his yearning to leave the family business and transform into the person he wants to be." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 2: Production "It was the first Once Upon a Time episode to be written … and I think a lot of people feel like that."[1] (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 3: Cultural references "" (not in the lead, a layout issue)
      • Major Point 4: Reception "That Still Small Voice" first aired in the United States on … Jiminy's characterization and Sbarge's performance." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body, the Reviews subsection should be expanded)
      • Major Point 4.1: Ratings "That Still Small Voice" first aired in the United States on … among the major networks." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
      • Major Point 4.2: Reviews "Since then, it has garnered generally positive … Jiminy's characterization and Sbarge's performance." (the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body)
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        • "That Still Small Voice" is the fifth episode of the American fairy tale/drama television series Once Upon a Time.
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    • The lead should be expanded.
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2: Verifiable with no original research

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Cross-checked with other FAs: Over There (Fringe), Pride & Prejudice (2005 film), Caroline of Ansbach, Sense and Sensibility (film)‎

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    • "have their adolescence well after adolescence. It took Jiminy a long time to figure out how to get away from the life he was living, and I think a lot of people feel like that."[1] (Random check on source 1, successful, as below)
    • "thrilled to get it," … "Someone who you might think … of people feel like that".[1] (Random check on source 1, successful, "Jane Espenson: The episode was sort of handed to me, but I was thrilled to get it. It’s what I would have picked. I love taking a character like Jiminy and exploring them. He’s someone who you might think of as being part of someone else’s story – even in Pinocchio, he’s all about someone else’s arc. I like taking that character and reminding us all that everyone is the hero of their own story. I related to him because of that, and also because it was such an identifiable story — the way so many people have their adolescence well after adolescence. It took Jiminy a long time to figure out how to get away from the life he was living, and I think a lot of people feel like that.")
    • "so engaging" … "incorporated a third, separate modern storyline" … "each storyline got just enough attention."[1] (Random check on source 1, successful, "… Storybrooke/Fairy Tale format, but incorporated a third, separate modern storyline for which the situation with Henry …")
    • "intimate character moments, particularly the scenes between Archie/Jiminy and the boys in his life," … "navigated both Archie and Jiminy’s journeys from being pawns to being their own men with precision and warmth."[1] (Random check on source 1, successful, "But the best part of the episode, and the thing that always tends to be Espenson’s strength, were the intimate character moments, particularly the scenes between Archie/Jiminy and the boys in his life.")
    • "fantastic concept". She explained, "What's the modern take on Jiminy Cricket and Rumpelstiltskin? What would their issues be in the real world? The beauty of the production, the care and the effort and, honestly, the expense that was put into it just made clear that was a project done with a lot of attention and love."[3]
    • "in that they have a large ensemble and what they do is that they take a few characters and they kind of take them, effectively on a deep dive."[6]
    • "treading into people's imaginations," but ultimately decided that "they cast me for a reason because there are some qualities in me that they obviously recognize for the story they want to tell."[7]
    • "sort of a surrogate father figure" to Henry, Sbarge admitted that the script "made me weep because what they came up with is so lovely and magical and delightful."[8]
    • "what you get to see on this trip are the fire rings he had to walk through to get to a place where he could evolve to develop a sense of doing the right thing."[5]
    • "proved to be an undeniably satisfying hour of television, deepening our understanding of Archie/Jiminy's character and giving us some welcome development in Mary Margaret and David's tragic romance. I don't know about you, but I really could watch a whole hour of those two playing hangman and innocently flirting and need nothing else from the show."[19]
    • "ragged on Robert Carlyle initially, his campy Rumpel is quickly becoming one of my favorite parts of this show."[13]
    • "Gilmore struggles to make a connection with his character, so it always looks like he’s reading lines," … .[9]
    • "this episode juggles the expansive character roster of this series better than its predecessors."[9]
    • "never liked Henry as much as I did in this episode," … .[20]
    • "most touching backstory" … "the transformation of Dr. Hopper was moving, and this episode maybe felt the most like a fairytale of the stories we've seen so far."[20]
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3: Broad in its coverage

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Cross-checked with other FAs: Over There (Fringe), Pride & Prejudice (2005 film), Caroline of Ansbach, Sense and Sensibility (film)‎

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4: Neutral

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5: Stable: No edit wars, etc:   Yes

6: Images   Done (Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license)

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    • Image (Raphael Sbarge at PaleyFest 2012.jpg): This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. This version permits free use, including commercial use.
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    • Caption - "The episode featured Jiminy Cricket (played by Raphael Sbarge)" (succinct and informative)


As per the above checklist, the issues identified are:

  • The lead does not provide an accessible overview and does not give relative emphasis.
  • The lead should be expanded.
  • Fix "Cultural references" section.


This article is a very promising GA nominee. I’m glad to see your work here. I’m putting the article on hold. All the best, --Seabuckthorn  09:27, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for reviewing. I will get to addressing your comments within the next day or two. Regards, Ruby 2010/2013 04:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
No worries and no rush. Take your time. I'm removing it from hold so that you are under no pressure. --Seabuckthorn  05:37, 22 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for reviewing! I have addressed most of your concerns (except one: I just wasn't sure what else from the Reviews section I could incorporate into the lead -- its main points are already summarized well (IMO), and I believe that the Reviews section itself is long enough. It'd be great if you could expand upon your thoughts on this. Thanks, Ruby 2010/2013 02:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks!   You're right. I misjudged it. Apologies.   --Seabuckthorn  02:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Promoting the article to GA status.   --Seabuckthorn  02:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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