Talk:Temple of Confucius

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I've created this article on the basis of the Chinese and to some extent Japanese articles on Confucian temples, as well as information available on the Internet. As usual, please feel free to edit! Bathrobe 11:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I notice that the Traditional Chinese characters have been deleted, leaving only the simplified. This is not ideal since the Traditional characters are, in a sense, more authentic given the subject matter.

On the other hand, I can appreciate that we don't want the English text cluttered up with Chinese characters.

I wonder if some of this information (particularly the different names given to Confucian temples) could be posted in a box, separate from the main text? Bathrobe 06:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Good idea; not my metier, though. Do you want to do it yourself? If not, I can try to find someone who's done similar things on other articles. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem doing this, but I'm not sure what box I should use. (Wikipedia has so many templates). Bathrobe 15:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Best to look through other articles on Chinese themes until you find one with a suitable template. There might not be a template, in fact, but you can copy the code for a box. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Done.

Now just kindly note WP:MOS-ZH & al. and don't clutter up the running text by adding the characters back from the infobox. They go there and stay there. — LlywelynII 06:30, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Image needs replacement

Hello all...

An image used in the article, specifically Image:Khuê Văn Các.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)i am adding to this they do acctually need replacing very bad if found out

Confucianism in North America

Are there any Confucian temples or churches in North America or anywhere else outside of Asia?--Splashen (talk) 20:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Recent edits

User:Hzh, thank you for your recent interest in the article. You may not be aware, but it's not only unnecessary but frowned upon (WP:MOS-ZH) to needlessly repeat all the names and romanizations from the infobox in the running text. It's less serious here where we have a Name section than when such a mess is cluttering up the lead sentence, but all the same there's nothing gained by writing the Vietnamese or Korean all over again. Just give the English meaning and context and move on. The Japanese doesn't need the hanzi but does need the romanization so a reader can clearly understand the translations for the names in the infobox. (Similarly, it would be worthwhile to explain what the thánh is doing in some Vietnamese names, but better to do that in English than in Vietnamese.)

On the other hand, if there's no linked article that already provides a needful foreign term, we include it here. Wendi falls under that, since English speakers aren't going to be able to find "Lord of Knowledge" at Confucius or very easily elsewhere. (If the attribution is incorrect, that's a whole separate kettle of fish: it's not about removing the Chinese but adding a cite-needed tag or removing the English.) No idea what your rationale was behind randomly removing the title from "Temple of Knowledge" in the infobox, but... y'know... don't. "Kongmiao" is the Chinese name for "Temple of Confucius" and all the ones below are alternative Chinese names to that. — LlywelynII 15:17, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

@LlywelynII: I have no idea why you address this to me, given that I had actually remove Chinese characters given in the text here, for the same reason you mentioned. Someone else removed the wendi [1] and I did not touch the infobox at all. The only one you can say I did is I added the characters for 孔廟 as I thought it important. I added the characters for the Japanese because there is no explanation as to which is which (seibyō and seidō), you edits actually make sure that none except for those who know Japanese know which is which. You edits only confuse people, and don't accuse other people of doing things they haven't done. Hzh (talk) 15:45, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

First of all, again, thanks for taking an interest. Many of your changes were helpful.

Re:Wendi, well, that's apparently a mistake and we should kill it. It was added by User:Aethelwolf Emsworth with this edit. It's unsourced and not only do Confucius and Wenchang Wang not mention it, but the Chinese Wiki and Baidu Baike entries on 文帝 don't mention them either. We're probably best off removing it entirely, until some good RS are provided.

Re:Your lack of understanding, well, the current page of edit histories is just a wall of your name (good job!) but you're right that what I was complaining about was done by User:Hongthay. Hongthay, thanks for glossing some of the other terms like the ceremonies, but (see above) don't needless repeat the terms already given in the infobox. (And sorry to you Hzh for bothering you about it.)

Re:The Japanese... well, you have a few grammar mistakes ("you edits" etc.) but I think you can follow the current sentence with "respectively" included. If your complaint is that there's no way to go from there to understanding the infobox, you missed the [ show ] button. But we can always RFD it and see if people think this name section really should repeat all the terms. — LlywelynII 16:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Good to know that typos in discussion are worth mentioning. Thank you. Hzh (talk) 16:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

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Modification needed?

I have heard of "Confucian temples" describing folk religion temples that are neither Daoist or Buddhist. Should this article be modified to accommodate that? GoutComplex (talk) 22:51, 11 May 2023 (UTC)