Talk:Telo mimetico/Archives/2021/April

Proper name of the camouflage

"Telo Mimetico" is not the name of the camo itself, but the other name of the Italian shelter halves. The real name is Policromo Roma Modello 1929, or simply the Roma M29, and that's also why in Italy the uniforms are called the "Policrome" (polychrome) Another interesting thing is the nickname: ever since the ITALCON mission (peacekeeping deployement of the Italian armed forces in Lebanon in 1982) the camo was nicknamed the "Lebanon" pattern (Mimetica "Libano"), similarly to how the desertic Roma 92 camo was nicknamed the Somalia patter after the 1992 UNOSOM-Ibis mission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.18.252.227 (talk) 10:34, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. If you can find a reliable source for this, we can update the article; otherwise it would only be hearsay. I note however that "telo" means cloth or canvas in Italian, not "shelter half", so "camouflage cloth" rather than "shelter half" does seem to be the correct interpretation. Thankyou for your understanding. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:24, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

German WWII adoption of "Telo Mimetico" italian camo pattern

While the article reports the germans adopting the italian camo pattern in 1941, I disagree with the date and suggest it should be corrected to 1943 (I don't want to do it myself, if possible). Italy and Germany were allies until the italian government signed an armistice with USA/UK/etc on 8 September 1943, so until then there was no chance for german troops to requisite italian materials on wide basis, and in fact, AFAIK (I study WW2 uniforms since my childhood, the first book bought in 1973), there is no wartime pic showing pre-1943 use of italian camo from german troops. It actually started after september 1943: during summer 1943 1st SS division "Leibstandarte Adolph Hitler" was (partially) deployed in Northern Italy. At the time (late 1943 summer) lots of italian army supplies were then requisited from germans and personnel of "LSSAH" (especially officiers and NCOs, and - IIRC - especialy personnel from SS Aufkl. Abt. 1) had privately tailored camouflage garments and suits done from italian camo tent shelters. The reason why also 12th SS Division "Hitlerjugend" saw wide use of italian camouflaged items was because the 12th was born with officers/NCO cadres coming from 1st SS "LSSAH" and also because lots of italian army materials were requisited in late 1943 - early 1944. I am going by memory here (I don't have my library available in these days) citing infos from 1st SS Div "LSSAH" and 12th SS Div "HJ" books from Heimdal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.170.105.247 (talk) 11:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

If anyone can find a reliably documented source for this then we should by all means update the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

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