Talk:Television personalities in Japan

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Mayo Kawasaki is still husband of Carolyn Kawasaki. There is no evidence of divorce.--75.212.57.142 23:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe so, I don't really follow little points like that. They are separated though, and say so publicly. If you are sure of a mistake that you find, be bold and change it yourself! That's how things work around here.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  05:49, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

This shouldn't even be here

Redirect this to 'celebrity' and get this weeb shit off wikipedia 129.137.213.157 (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Post new comments at the bottom of the page. Boneyard90 (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Mild bias in overview

The line, "whereas celebrities in the U.S. give their winnings to charity because they are suppossed to have a better means of livelihood, Tarento keep the money and prizes for themselves", sounds somewhat biased as it implies that Tarento are selfish in not donating their profits. I don't think the comparison is necessary, and have rewritten that portion of the overview. --Lareine 17:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Reining in the "Notable" gaijin tarento

There needs to be some sources that some of these performers have actually been featured (not an extra) on multiple tarento based programs or not being mislabelled (ex. the infamous Jero edits or someone on an NHK eikaiwa program that doesn't do the tarento circuit) because right now it just looks like people are throwing names up there just to do it.

• December 2010 Suggestion: If there is no Wiki page about them in English they should be deleted. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.198.43.243 (talk) 11:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

• Per 2010 suggestion proceeding with deleting all persons without Wikipedia in English after 7 days... People with no citations are next.. Half these people are not known to an old man (me) who watches Japanese TV daily for years! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Housecleanertokyo (talk • contribs) 10:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Why is this article named tarento?

Why is this article named "tarento" when the English word "talent" can be used to refer to a person? Is the "tarento" spelling used at all in the Japanese media? I think the article would be better served at Talent (person). --Voidvector 09:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese media uses the katakana rendering exclusively - it's considered a wasei-eigo word in and of itself, with its own meaning, not just a transliteration of the English word. English discussions tend to use tarento instead of "talent," since "talent" is often used to describe actors or other performers in general in American media. — AKADriver ☎ 17:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually it should be called Talento instead of Tarento. As there is no differece in Japanese between L and R, it makes absolutely no sense to use an R, where there was an L in the original English word. Besides, it is mostly used as Talento in English articles that discuss Japanese show-business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OddstarDeluxe (talk • contribs) 19:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Voidvector that this should be Talent (person). The reason the Japanese media use the katakana rendering exclusively is that's how you spell "talent" in Japanese. There is no greater meaning than that. Marshall Stax (talk) 11:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with both Voidvector and OddstarDeluxe. It should be Talent as it is the meaning, but if you insist on keeping the japanese pronounciation, it shoud then be Talento as it has the same japanese translation than "tarento" and is neerer both in the pronounciation and the meaning. Finally I will quote the japanese version of the article : タレント（talent、Talent）--210.138.173.7 (talk) 10:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Why is this a page71.127.180.18 (talk) 06:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

It would be nice if we could use English but is there a word for this in English? We can't just use talent ... not because these people tend to lack any ... but because it doesn't really mean the same thing. Can we even come up with a suscinct and accurate description? JIMp _talk·cont 03:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I might suggest "Japanese TV Personalities", though I feel that this might not be exactly right. Normally I feel that most articles do not deserve a Japanese title, but try as I might, I really can't think of a corresponding word for a talentless idiot who's only claim to fame is that they are on TV.--98.202.22.238 (talk) 07:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

BAD faith?

You'd better read through the article Bad faith, before accusing and undoing someone's edit as an anonymous user.Belle Equipe (talk) 00:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

When you undo an edit without explanation, that *is* bad faith. Also, those deleted people do their jobs which sometimes gets them on TV. It doesn't mean that their job *is* being on TV. That would be like saying that the entire Yomiuri Giants team are tarento because they show their games on TV and are sometimes invited onto variety shows. BTW - It doesn't matter if I'm an anonymous user or not since I am POSITIVELY contributing to the article....and that means putting in personalities that succinctly fit the definition of tarento. 126.68.4.4 (talk) 09:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Without explanation? Look at the comment! I DID put the explanation, and they ARE regarded as Tarentoes AS WELL, unlike sports players. Then, are you trying to bring up another false accusation against me as an ANONYMOUS user? Give me a break!Belle Equipe (talk) 16:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Your original revert was done without explanation. If they are regarded as tarento, then you can always source that information. Until then, I challenge that information and it can be erased. And like I said before, being anonymous doesn't automatically make you right or me wrong. And learn how to spell the word before throwing it around like a pejorative. 126.68.4.4 (talk) 23:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Now that I've reviewed the edits again, the IP's edits to the external links/references, the addition of the reflist section, and the addition of another definition was good. However, my point above still remains about reverting the revert. I think removing people that have been in the list for a while is controversial. When you removed them, you should have been expecting a revert. Since the revert occurred, you should have brought it here to discuss immediately and gain consensus instead of starting in an edit war with the other user and you certainly shouldn't have cried out "bad faith" without considering why Belle Equipe reverted you. People are allowed to revert any of your edits and people are allowed to not give you reasons for the reversions. That is not bad faith in the least. Period. You need to review the guidelines on good faith, Wikiquette, and civility, because you are really pushing it in the discussions and the edit summaries. I'm going to request the page be fully-protected until a consensus is met. --13² 00:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The page has been fully protected for one week. Before it was protected, I reverted it to Belle Equipe's version as it was the most stable. Please, Anon and Belle Equipe, discuss this and come to a consensus in that time. If you can't come to a consensus or refuse to discuss it, I suggest you start going through the process of dispute resolution. Also, I hope, Anon, that, since you now have had a second person call you out on your behavior, you start discussing the issue in a more civilized manner and stop focusing on how Belle Equipe reverted your edits. I'll be watching the page and making comments here and there. Please try to stay on topic. Thanks. --13² 17:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Anon, you were extremely vocal about why these people didn't belong on the list and now you haven't said a word since I last replied. Please, either discuss this or consider it a consensus for Belle Equipe's version once the protection comes off. Thanks. --13² 21:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

originated from the Portuguese ???

That does not make any sense. Japanese phonetics do not need Portuguese to change an English word. --Pascal Boulerie (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

To me this is another description for a...

socialite! Detractors of the phenomenon have referred to it in an English sense as "famous for being famous" because many that fall into this career line have no discernible talent outside of being featured on television. This definitely applies to a socialite as well. No discernible talent outside of being famous, being in (tabloid) press, and sometimes appearing on celeb parties/VIP events. (Whilst this is ironic in itself, since VIP stands for "Very Important Person". But since when are socialites deemed "important"? ;) Besides, female "talentos" would often be called "it girls" in English. The latter's notability is usually limited as well: a couple of months (if they're lucky), and fallen into oblivion the next year. -andy 77.190.51.187 (talk) 14:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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Tarento → Television personalities in Japan – Per WP:USEENGLISH. A cursory search on Google shows that the term tarento was used in reporting in articles dated from 2015 and before, and now recent reporting uses its English equivalent "TV personality", as seen in The New York Times, The Japan Times (2), (3). lullabying (talk) 21:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 13:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• note I accidentally closed the discussion (special:diff/972927076), and moved the page. I thought user:Synoman Barris had relisted the discussion a week ago. I have undid my close, and reverted the moves. Also, the target "Television personalities in Japan" was a redlink before I moved the pages around. I apologise for the inconvenience. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
• support per WP:USEENGLISH. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
• Support per WP:USEENGLISH. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:57, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support. It's just the term in Japanese. Enjoyer of World (talk) 03:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

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