Talk:Tees Valley line
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Exton/Eston Branch Railway
editOn the source from which I got that the line/railway was there ([1]), it is listed on that map as the "Exton Branch Raily
". Whether this was meant to be Eston, it wasn't quite where Eston is ([2]) given the branch (which isn't on the second one any more) is near Redcar and not at Eston. As there is just the one source of the Exton branch, and it is listed as being spelt Exton, I think that's the only possible way of which we can spell it on the diagram, unless someone can come up with some further evidence. --Simmo676 00:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- I truly doubt it's Exton... never heard of it. Eston is MUCH more likely. Computerjoe's talk 21:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Questionable map?
editThat first map [3] is much older than it's 1885 publication date suggests, since it doesn't show the extension to Saltburn completed in 1862. The first edition OS Map [ISBN 0 7153 5083 8] first published in the late 1850s shows an unnamed mineral branch that splits from the main line at Ryehills Farm between Redcar and Marske and ends roughly where the "Exton Branch" does - more or less what is now New Marske.
The 1861 OS map [4] clearly shows an "Eston Branch Railway" that leaves the main line west of Redcar (roughly what is now Grangetown) and runs down towards Eston and Normanby. This is still visible on the 1955 map as lifted track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogbyte (talk • contribs) 18:53, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
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- Based on the "1885" map it does seem to show that line which later appears on the 1861 OS map as the Eston Branch Railway, so a new piece between South Bank and Grangetown should say "Eston Branch Railway". Meanwhile the one labelled as "Former line to Eston also exists on the 1955 map and has no name still. Meanwhile, Exton Branch Railway has disappeared completely from all maps by 1955. I don't have this first edition OS map but if it shows a branch in that place, I'd say we should now have this diagram?
Comparing the "1885" map to the 1st edition OS, the first part of the branch seems to have become part of the Saltburn line. There were two Redcar stations at that point, a terminus close to the seafront and the current station further inland on what would have been part of the branch from the "1885" map. So I reckon the map should be as amended below to relate to the line as it is now.
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- I see. Sounds pretty good to me, although I'm guessing it would also keep in the diagram Redcar East (the old terminus? or a replacement?) and Longbeck before Marske? (Hmm, page is getting a bit stretched). --Simmo676 13:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, yes. Redcar East is more recent (1930s I think) built for a new housing estate. And Longbeck is newer still (1980s), the branch would have been somewhere between the two.
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Mining occurred in New Marske during 19th century I think. Perhaps it's for that? Computerjoe's talk 22:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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Splitting of line into two?
editThere are disturbing rumours going about that through trains from Bishop Auckland to Saltburn will cease with the redevelopment of Darlington Station which has already started. Can anyone find authoritative and current information on this? PeterR2 (talk) 12:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- PeterR2 An article in Rail magazine from 2020 states
| “ | ....subject to detailed timetabling assessment during development [of Darlington railway station], the benefits of the recommended option may require that the through to/from Saltburn to Bishop Auckland service is split into two services at Darlington to accommodate nine passenger services on the ECML through Darlington.[1] | ” |
Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Haigh, Philip (15 July 2020). "NR plans more platforms and tracks for north-east railway". Rail Magazine. No. 909. Peterborough: Bauer Media. p. 32.