Talk:Tate & Lyle/Archives/2015

Domino

Can we add Domino sugar to make a list of brands?

Oldest brand?

How do GNR and BBC reckon T&L to be the UKs oldest brand? According to the article T&L was founded in 1921 out of two companies (the oldest Lyle being founded in 1865).

Either date is way too late as UK's oldest brand when you consider that Lloyds was established in 1688, Bank of Scotland 1695, Crosse and Blackwell 1706, Royal Sun Insurance 1710, Whitbread 1742, Wedgwood 1759, Yardley 1770, Bass 1777... and so on (in fact under brands, Wikipedia has a useful list of businesses going back to c1000).

Against this T&L is an also ran!

It can't even claim to have the oldest registered UK trademark as Bass had No1 on 1st January 1876. Perhaps what they meant was that T&L has the oldest pack design. Even so, I would have thought that the likes of Colman's mustard, Bass Light Ale and .. if not UK, bottled Guiness (and Camp Coffee until recently) could maybe beat that as well?). NeilW 17:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

The BBC article is clear that it's the packaging from 1885: presumably the others have changed too much to qualify. . dave souza, talk 20:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

The BBC article is confused as there is a difference between brand (of which many predate T&L) and the tin design (of which it may be the oldest packaging) Sadly the requirement of Wikipedia is verifibility and not truth or facts (which is a fundamental and monumentally stupid flaw) so the reference is permitted in the bizzare world that is Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.42.88 (talk) 01:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

208.50.89.58 (talk) 10:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

Hi, Subject to the conflicts of interest rule, I can not edit this page. However, I would appreciate someone updating some of the facts listed on the page as follows:

In 4th paragraph of 'History' should be changed to the following text, all referenced from the History page of their website - In 1988 it acquired a 90% stake in A. E. Staley, a US corn processing business and in 1998 it brought Haarmann & Reimer, a citric acid producer. In 2000 it acquired the remaining minorities of Amylum and A. E. Staley.

In the first paragraph of 'Operations' it should say the company operates over 45 production facilities (not 50) and A.E.Staley should be changed to read "Food and Industrial Ingredients Americas (formally A.E. Staley)"

In see also, the references to Redpath Sugar and Western Sugar Cooperative should be removed - they are no longer associated with Tate & Lyle.

In external links, I don't understand why there is a link to a biography of 'Carl I. Hagen - he has nothing to do with T&L as far as I am aware - can anyone spread any light on this?

Many thanks 208.50.89.58 (talk) 10:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

amended as requested except that the operations section already reads as you had intended so I have not touched it. Please clarify if further edits are needed Dormskirk (talk) 23:14, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

References

Sockpuppet vandalism(?)

I don't know how to report abusive users but I want to warn people who watch this page that an editor put a non pertinent unsourced sentence about the Atlantic Slave Trade in the lede and when i reverted it a different IP address with no history reverted my revert. The second reversion has been fixed by a bot so no harm done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.99.75.127 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.20.65.219

Azkm (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

The same edits continue and have been reverted again. I'll request page protection if it persists. Deli nk (talk) 13:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)