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More research is needed on this term. It should not be merged to Abnaki. The name "Tarrantine" applied to the Mi'kmaq far more than it ever did to the Abnaki. The term "Tarrantine" was a synonym for Mikmaq at one point. Please let us look up the sources and get a quality article on this term. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

[13th March 2011]

Ma'tawelin

Tarrantine and its many versions historically was a term applied by the Massachusetts and other Abenaki groups [and the New Englanders] to the Mi'kmaq [Micmac]. One of the problems in identity is that during the so called Trade or Tarrantine wars the Mi'kmaq established themselves on the north east side of the Penobscot Bay and stayed there paving the way for the Castins. The Penobscot Abenaki were not the Tarrantines. At first the two were bitter enemies but soon united against a common foe ... the English Colonizers. Over the years the two somewhat merged. Evidence for this outside the historic record and oral tradition lies in the vast amount of words common to languages of both the modern Penobscot and Mi'kmag. Outside of Maliceet, the geographical neighbours of Mi'kmaq, no other Abenaki language has as much in common. Add to that ... many Mi'kmaq claim family relationship with Penobscot and vise versa ...

The following which takes place in 1607 on the south shore of Nova Scotia [Mi'kmaq Territory]is the earliest source I have come across mentioning the Tarrantine and it clearly identifies them as Mi'kmaq ...

"... The Cheef Comander of thes pts ys called Messamott [Messamouet, Mi'kmaq Chief at La Heve]and the ryver or harbor ys called emannett [Mi'kmaq word for "processes or event"]. We take these peopell to be the Tarentyns [Tarrantine] and these peopell as we have Learned sence do make wars with Sasonoa the Cheeffe Commander to the westward whear ... we have planted and this Somer they killed his Sonne. ..."

Anonymous English Colonist, on his way to Maine. "Relation of a Voyage to Sagadahoc, 1607 - 1608" In "Early English and French Voyages", edited by H.S. Burrage. 1906: 81 - 83. ...

Wela'lin ...

Algomatin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.103.225.26 (talk) 06:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

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