Talk:Tahawus, New York

Torn Down?

This is the first place I've seen any indication that the mine buildings were demolished. Can anyone provide any references for that? --Kadin2048 16:37, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.oboylephoto.com/mine/index.htm and http://www.acppubs.com/article/CA6370322.html feydey 19:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I was up there two years ago and the mine buildings/factories were all gone. I have a slew of pictures of the area. The town still had many buildings, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.108.249.94 (talk) 15:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

"Cloudsplitter"

It's been pretty much established that "Cloudsplitter" as a meaning for "Tahawus" was probably coined by whites. Besides, there is no such thing as "Eastern Woodland Indian dialect" - which language did it come from? (Mohawk? Algonquin? Abenaki?) 24.58.169.119 02:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Changing it to show this. 190.18.179.111 (talk) 22:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How is Tahawus pronounced? I've seen Ta-he-wus [1] and Tu HAWS [2] Peter Flass (talk) 19:41, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Spell much? ;-) Peter Flass (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Name "Tahawus" misapplied to ghost town

I tried editing this section but came upon a fundamental problem: This article, which is written about the deserted village at the Upper Works site in Newcomb township, Essex County, New York, is about a settlement that was variously named McIntyre (from 1832 to 1844), Adirondac (from 1844 to 1858), and the Upper Works (from the 1840s until the present). From the mid-1870s until the early 1940s, it was the home of a sportsmen's club and summer retreat colony that became known (in 1898) as the Tahawus Club -- but the place name, "Tahawus," was applied during much of that period to a site about 11 miles down the Hudson also known as the Lower Works, where the Tahawus Post Office was located. In the 1940s, when National Lead opened its huge titanium mine and mill, the Tahawus Post Office was moved from the Lower Works to the new company town, which became known by that name -- Tahawus. The company town of Tahawus was some 4 miles away from the Upper Works, where the ghost town now stands (and where the Tahawus Club once had its summer colony).

And yet, the Upper Works has, in fact, been known colloquially (and mistakenly) as "Tahawus" for a long, long time.

An article about "Tahawus, New York" should, strictly speaking, be about the National Lead company town built in the 1940s that was dismantled in the 1960s and moved to the Winebrook development on the outskirts of the hamlet of Newcomb. This article should be retitled "Upper Works ghost town" -- or, perhaps, as I've done in the several anthologies I have compiled of the travel writings and historical studies of the site, "the Deserted Village," to distinguish it from the company town. (You can access all of the material I've compiled about the Upper Works at absolutely no charge using my Wagner College faculty website -- http://faculty.wagner.edu/lee-manchester/deserted-village-anthologies/. I have compiled those materials explicitly so that anyone interested in the material would have free access to it, in one place, and would not have to re-compile all of that stuff all over again for themselves. I don't make a penny off the distribution of any of those collections.)

If anyone has a solution to this, I'd be happy to hear about it. You can write to me at lee.manchester@wagner.edu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee Manchester (talk • contribs) 16:20, 6 October 2013 (UTC)