Talk:Taganrog
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Copyvio
editThe text is largely taken straight from the official city site and needs to be rewritten. Languagehat (talk) 17:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- I removed the offending passages. They did not contribute much to the article anyway and consisted mostly of touristy glorification of the city. Thanks for catching this. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- There is no copyvio. Please read carefully http://taganrogcity.com/copyright.html
As for the photograph with yachts - that's totally up to you, but as far as I know the photographer Sergey Kopylov who took all the photos from the airplane complained that they're all uploaded by somebody for public access. That's where you should look for copyviolation, and not in the text you removed.ISasha (talk) 20:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Liberation of Taganrog
editUndid revision 460138046 by Decora (talk)
I just want to reiterate that August 30, 1943 Taganrog was liberated from the Nazis. This day is celebrated citywide every year as "The Liberation Day" or "The Day of Liberation of Taganrog" [1], [2],[3]. Let's call things by their proper names! ISasha (talk) 09:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Governor of Taganrog
editIf someone wants to discuss the topic, let's do it here prior to introducing any changes into the article. For your guidance there is an article on the subject in the Russian-language Wikipedia - ru:Градоначальство Thank you. ISasha (talk) 19:01, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- My only concern is that "governorate" is a poor choice of term to translate "градоначальство" (although, of course, not incorrect per se), because in Wikipedia it is mostly used to refer to "губерния". Once the need to describe the administrative-territorial structure of the Russian Empire arises in some other article, a different term will need to be used anyway (or it won't be possible to compare the different types of divisions), so why not use that term consistently in all articles, including this one? Referring to different concepts by the same name in different places never leads to anything besides confusion :) May I suggest "City Governorship" or some such term?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 18, 2012; 19:29 (UTC)
- I understand. "Governor" seems to be the only adequate translation of the term. Most good dictionaries offer "Governor", some suggest "Mayor" as the translation. The fact is that in Taganrog as well as in Feodosiya, Kerch and Odessa there were simultaneously TWO: governor or градоначальник who was responsible not only for the city of Taganrog or say Feodosiya but for a much larger area, which included (in case of Taganrog) Rostov, Nakhichevan, Khartsyzsk, Mariupol etc., much broader functions and responsibilities; and there was also a "mayor" of Taganrog or literally "head of the city" - городской голова, who was responsible solely for the municipal problems. These 4 seaports were subordinated directly to Alexander I and further to other Russian tzars, which puts them in the same rank as Губернии. I've studied local history, and I am author of five articles on Taganrog governors, so I think I know what I'm talking about. "City governorship" is a clear explanation, but to me this sounds really weird especially in combination "City Governor of Taganrog City". I suggest leaving it as it is. ISasha (talk) 20:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, I have nothing against using "governor" to refer to the office ("Governor of Taganrog" seems perfectly fine to me); it's using the term "governorate" to refer to the administrative division that I feel uneasy with. Almost all our articles about guberniyas are titled "XXX Governorate", and since Taganrog was not a guberniya but rather a gradonachalstvo, it shouldn't be referred to using the same term. That was my only concern. Thanks for taking time to write up such a detailed explanation, though! Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 18, 2012; 20:34 (UTC)
- Hello again, I have nothing against using "City Governorship" for gradonachalstvo. I thought you wanted to use the term in the way like "city governor of Taganrog", I was wrong. Now I agree with you. Thanks for your contribution! ISasha (talk) 05:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, I have nothing against using "governor" to refer to the office ("Governor of Taganrog" seems perfectly fine to me); it's using the term "governorate" to refer to the administrative division that I feel uneasy with. Almost all our articles about guberniyas are titled "XXX Governorate", and since Taganrog was not a guberniya but rather a gradonachalstvo, it shouldn't be referred to using the same term. That was my only concern. Thanks for taking time to write up such a detailed explanation, though! Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 18, 2012; 20:34 (UTC)
- I understand. "Governor" seems to be the only adequate translation of the term. Most good dictionaries offer "Governor", some suggest "Mayor" as the translation. The fact is that in Taganrog as well as in Feodosiya, Kerch and Odessa there were simultaneously TWO: governor or градоначальник who was responsible not only for the city of Taganrog or say Feodosiya but for a much larger area, which included (in case of Taganrog) Rostov, Nakhichevan, Khartsyzsk, Mariupol etc., much broader functions and responsibilities; and there was also a "mayor" of Taganrog or literally "head of the city" - городской голова, who was responsible solely for the municipal problems. These 4 seaports were subordinated directly to Alexander I and further to other Russian tzars, which puts them in the same rank as Губернии. I've studied local history, and I am author of five articles on Taganrog governors, so I think I know what I'm talking about. "City governorship" is a clear explanation, but to me this sounds really weird especially in combination "City Governor of Taganrog City". I suggest leaving it as it is. ISasha (talk) 20:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Song about Taganrog
editPlease, add to "city in culture" song http://nayekhovichi.ru/albums/karova/taganrog.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.168.77 (talk) 15:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Twin-Cities of Taganrog
editMariupol is no longer twinned with Taganrog[1]. Goliath74 (talk) 17:34, 5 July 2017 (UTC).
References
- Removed. Thanks for the heads up. The dissolution is further confirmed by the main reference at taganrogcity.com where Mariupol has also been removed. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
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Taganrog and its role in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
editI have seen news reports in RS that Ukrainian civilians have been forcefully deported to Taganrog from Mariupol by Russian forces.
Some sources on this include: Reuters and Guardian. Is it OK if I add an some information about this here, or is this a case of WP:NOTNEWS? Hx7 20:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)