Talk:Tadej Pogačar

Currently

Copied from User talk:Paulpat99#Tadej Pogačar -- currently

I'm sorry, but you're not correct with specifying time as currently. You need to be more precise WP:PRECISELANG--Vаdiм (talk) 11:11, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Vаdiм, I have read that article however all the other cyclist pages e.g: Will Barta, Jakub Mareczko etc all use "Will Barta... who currently rides for UCI WorldTeam CCC Team". I was just reverting it to stick with the stanndard used by al other pages. Paulpat99 (talk) 20:51, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

What you're referring to is a pattern not a standard. Such a pattern should be avoided in Wikipedia whenever possible. You's specify a more presice date. See also WP:RELTIME --Vаdiм (talk) 15:02, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

However, what I have just read now "Absolute specifications of time are preferred..." It says they are preferred and then goes on to say "...because the latter may go out of date..." since these pages are updated regularly they wont go out of date I feel that using currently flows better than rewording as; from 2019 rider rode for x team. Paulpat99 (talk) 20:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Again, this is your personal preference, not a standard. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style is based on the common consensus across the Wikipedia and it's the standard to follow. The page in question is a biography of a living person not a news bulletin. The MOS:REALTIME in particular advises that Wikipedia:As of style should be used in such contexts.--Vаdiм (talk) 11:58, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Apparently this discussion goes circles. I've made a request for a third opinion in attempt to resolve it--Vаdiм (talk) 12:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

Hello, I'm creffett and I'll be your third opinion today. Vаdiм is correct per MOS:REALTIME and MOS:CURRENT. CURRENT mentions that articles updated frequently can use these terms, but this doesn't appear to qualify. While other articles may say "currently," that isn't correct according to the manual of style. I would recommend using the {{as of}} template, as mentioned on MOS:CURRENT, so that the statement is flagged for occasional review. Also, Paulpat99: you say that these pages are updated regularly and so won't go out of date, but that's a significant assumption to make - better to explicitly flag the time-dependent information so that it's visible to anybody reviewing these sorts of statements. creffpublic a creffett franchise (talk to the boss) 16:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks creffett for sharing your opinion. Paulpat99 are you OK with this explanation? --Vаdiм (talk) 16:00, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes I am happy with the explanation, so going forward would this mean all cyclists will be changed to the appropriate format? Paulpat99 (talk) 20:05, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Please do if you can, but there is WP:NORUSH. Cheers! --Vаdiм (talk) 12:06, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Fignon

Amazing that Fignon, who died in 2010 when Pogaçar would have been 12, already drew comparisons with Merkx... 2603:8000:CE00:7100:1C12:23FF:526:11BA (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)