Talk:TMNT (film)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Bruce1ee (talk · contribs) 11:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll be reviewing this nomination; I'll follow up here with my findings over the next day or two. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Before I start the review, please could I ask that some of the References be fixed:

• There are three dead-links: [1], [2], [3]
• One link returns a "Bad Request": [4]
• Some of the references are not complete: the "Retrieved" date and other information is missing; this seems to happen when {{cite}} templates are not used.

Thanks. —Bruce1ee^talk 13:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

"Retrived" date (or any particular / "perfect" style of citation formatting) is not needed for a GA. --Niemti (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

It may not be a GA requirement, and I'm not going to push it, but many of the references do have "Retrieved" dates, and I thought why not make them all consistent. —Bruce1ee^talk 14:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   See Comments below Fixed

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

   See Comments below

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   See Comments below Fixed

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   See Comments below Fixed

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   Non-free image File:TMNTposter.jpg with FUR supplied.

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

• 1A.
  • In the Plot section, "The Turtles engage the beast, going against Leo and Splinter's orders, and are defeated after the monster is captured." – defeated by who, the monster?
    • Fixed.
  • In the Production section, "Golden Harvest's rights expired, and Gray, at an animation company, said the question arose there over a CGI TMNT film in 2004." – what rights? what animation company? is that where Gray was working at the time?
    • Fixed.
  • In the Marketing and tie-ins section, "The McDonald's fast-food chain promoted TMNT" – when?
    • Fixed.
  • In the Marketing and tie-ins section, please disambiguate Playmates.
    • Fixed.
  • In the Marketing and tie-ins section, the statement "A sneak peek booklet containing storyboards, environment designs and character designs by comic artist Jeff Matsuda was also distributed at the convention." is not supported by the supplied citation ([5])
  • The Soundtrack section has no citations.
    • Fixed.
  • The last sentence in the Video games section has no citation.
    • Fixed.
  • In the Video games section, "A mobile game TMNT: The Power of 4 was also released by Overloaded and releassed by uClick that same year." – was it released by both companies? the source says Overloaded was the developer.
    • Fixed.
  • Close paraphrasing/copyright violations:

• Lead section:

Article

"features the voice talents of Chris Evans, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Patrick Stewart, Zhang Ziyi, and Laurence Fishburne"

Source

"features the voice talents of Chris Evans, Sarah Michelle Gellar, [...] Patrick Stewart, Ziyi Zhang and Laurence Fishburne"

• Fixed.

• Production section:

Article

"Writer/director Kevin Munroe, who had previously worked with video games, comics and television animation, said that he wanted to do total"

Source

"writer/director Kevin Munroe, who has worked previously in video games, comics and TV animation, says he wanted to do total"

• Fixed.

• Marketing and tie-ins section:

Article

"a Splinter voice-over with shots of monsters, jungles, Foot ninjas, facial tests, concept designs, muscle tests, dynamic fight tests, and some"

Source

"a Splinter voice over with shots of monsters, jungles, foot ninjas, facial tests, concept designs, muscle tests, dynamic fight tests and some"

• Fixed.

• 1B.
  • The lead section doesn't adequately summarize the body of the article (see WP:LEAD): it needs more on the production details (eg. the reason to go CGI); marketing and tie-ins is not covered; a bit more could be added to the reception (eg. revenue, a couple of quotes from critics).
    • Fixed.
  • No mention is made of the film's budget in the body of article.
    • Fixed.
• 2A.
  • Why is this reference labelled "Amazon.com" in the References section?
    • Fixed.
• 2B.
  • distanthorizons.proboards.com is a forum, and not a reliable source (see also Dispatches: Reliable sources in content review processes).
    • Removed.
  • blog.moviefone.com is a blog, why is this a reliable source?
    • This is a blog for Moviefone, but the writer Erik Davis appears to be a professional writer for Moviefone, so it would seem to be a reliable source (see WP:NEWSBLOG).
  • kidstvmovies.about.com – is the author of the article an expert independently published in the field? See also "About.com" in Dispatches: Reliable sources in content review processes.
    • Source replaced.

Please have a look at the above issues and reply here when they have been addressed. Thanks. —Bruce1ee^talk 08:17, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

It is atually very directly supported (the cover reads: "SNEAK PEAK: San Diego Comic Con exclusive"). Moviefone ain't no blog. When promoted - upon the release, of course. --Niemti (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

SNEAK PEAK: San Diego Comic Con exclusive: where on that page does it say anything about "storyboards, environment designs and character designs"? There are still a couple of issues outstanding – see Comments above. —Bruce1ee^talk 15:22, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Where? Inside. The publication is the source. --Niemti (talk) 16:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

SNEAK PEAK doesn't show or say anything about "storyboards, environment designs and character designs". But I see them on the Russian page, and I think if you add that source as well it would be acceptable. The only other outstanding item is adding a bit more to the lead – the production, which is quite a long section, is barely mentioned at all. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:45, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

No, because it's the scans and copyrights violations? Seriously, the book[let] is the source. Like the film is the source for the plot and the crew (in its credits). The link in the article is only to back up the fact of its very existence. --Niemti (talk) 08:40, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, you've convinced me. I'll accept that. —Bruce1ee^talk 09:29, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Everything seems ok now ... pass. —Bruce1ee^talk 06:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --Niemti (talk) 09:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)