Talk:TIA (disambiguation)

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Tia is a name meaning princess in Greace — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.106.127 (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 1 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sennecaster (Chat) 23:00, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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TIA → TIA (disambiguation) – Nearly all outgoing pageviews are for Transient ischemic attack, so this is a pretty obvious gimme for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 47.155.41.104 (talk) 07:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. HouseBlaster^talk 02:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

• Move to Tia, but oppose moving transient ischemic attack to TIA. First, a majority of the topics listed on the TIA page seem to use the sentence case name "Tia", so this should be more similar to something like Jim and how JIM is a redirect to that. However, WP:AT § Avoid ambiguous abbreviations and MOS:ACROTITLE take precedence in this scenario, which state that they should only be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject (as cited in the latter guideline, that is why NASA is where it is now, but CIA remains just a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT instead of an outright WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to Central Intelligence Agency). Given the amount of articles currently listed on TIA, this does not currently appear to be the case that the "TIA" acronym is primarily associated with transient ischemic attack. Zzyzx11 (talk) 09:52, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

  OP has not nominated transient ischemic attack to be moved. Presumably, TIA would become a primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

  Oh sure move to whatever policy says the name should be. Do I need to edit the move request? Or if someone else wants to, go ahead. I was assuming TIA would redirect to Transient ischemic attack. 47.155.41.104 (talk) 17:17, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

• The linked WikiNav page says that there were 1.5k incoming views, and 877 outgoing clickstreams to the proposed primary topic were identified, which is ~58.5%. That alone does not prove WP:PTOPIC, a more coherent argument would be needed. Thanks in advance! ;) --Joy (talk) 15:58, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

  I'm afraid you're mixing some numbers up because you don't quite get the way WikiNav lays out its data. There were only 1k outgoing pageviews, meaning users who actually "clicked" to leave the page. As WikiNav helpfully tells you in one of its graphs, that's almost 90%. The other ~500 never left the page, for why, who can say. Maybe some are bots etc. Some might be people who just gave up and left because they don't know or care about all the Byzantine internal rules WP has; they're looking for something and aren't going to bother reading through a bunch of unrelated stuff to hunt for the object of their quest.

  As for those outgoing pageviews, most are for Tia (name). Fortunately thanks to MediaWiki this is trivially resolved by just keeping Tia pointed at the disambig, and a hatnote at Transient ischemic attack. Or whatever the right naming policy rule is—is that the right thing to actually title the disambig? 47.155.41.104 (talk) 08:34, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

  I'm not mixing anything up, I'm just saying that we can't ignore the facts laid out by the top graph in WikiNav in favor of one of the bottom graphs. Just because we don't specifically know what happened to the rest of the views that doesn't mean that this data doesn't matter for the assessment of what is going on. Indeed, already here you correctly now used this information to construct a more reasonable argument to make - sorting the entry for transient ischemic attack as the very last entry in the list is most likely unhelpful and we should fix that. (I did that in the meantime.) --Joy (talk) 07:43, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Move to Tia and support a retarget of TIA to Transient ischemic attack per WP:SMALLDIFFERENCES. estar8806 (talk) ★ 18:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Support so people can get to the medical article faster in an emergency Chidgk1 (talk) 09:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Clear primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:38, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.