Talk:TAI TF Kaan/Archive 1

Latest comment: 3 years ago by ŞeyhMuşmula in topic First flight date.
Archive 1

Turkish / UK Origin

I Have listed the national origin as "Turkish, United Kingdom". Due to the fact that UK based BAE is providing design oversight and UK based Rolls Royce is providing propulsion. In addition, a recent statement from BAE says "At its peak, hundreds of Turkish and UK engineers will collaborate on the TF-X programme helping to support collaboration on the skills, technology and technical expertise required to deliver the programme." http://www.baesystems.com/en/article/bae-systems-signs-heads-of-agreement-for-a-future-contract-with-turkish-aerospace-industries-for-tf-x-programme If anyone has information to prove this is overwhelmingly a Turkish project they are encouraged to post it here before editing. STKS91 (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I've removed it, again. No one is disputing UK involvement, but it doesn't rise to the level national origin, which usually means prime contractors in both countries. We also don't usually don't count engine providers, as the engines are covered separately in their own articles. A comparable example is the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo, which has heavy involvement by US companies, but the US isn't included in the national origin field, and shouldn't be. - BilCat (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

UK is not a nation of origin. Because; Buying engineering support is a common thing and it doesn't mean that BAE nor UK have any rights on the aircraft. There are around 150 BAE engineers involved in the project and they are only there to support not to design.Rolls-Royce engine deal is long gone.

It's overwhelmingly Turkish because like I said before, this is not a joint venture and project rights belongs to the TAI, there are 150 British engineers and a thousand Turkish engineers in the project if you want numbers. ŞeyhMuşmula (talk) 01:56, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Which Engine?

While an agreement is signed with Eurojet engine manufacturer in 2015, which seems final, other parties are still vying for this engine as of 2018. EJ200 link says it is the engine of choice, and then says it was not chosen. Can someone clear this up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.247.165.26 (talk) 14:27, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

First flight date.

First flight on 2023 or 2030? Nafis Fuad Ayon (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:CRYSTAL, I've removed them from the infobox and lead. No person can say that a rollout will happen in 2 years on a specific date, even a chief executive. Things happen. BilCat (talk) 10:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

It's 2025, CEO himself announced it few weeks ago. But someone named shadow.. something keeps editing the page as "it is delayed to 2030s" with secondary sources who use old information and apperantly CEO's words are not as valuable as a UAE funded England centred anti-Turkey propaganda news website to him. I can not undue his edita anymore as it became something called edit battle. I'm writing here and hoping someone would do something about it. ŞeyhMuşmula (talk) 02:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)