Talk:Syntrichopappus fremontii

Possible copying/close paraphrasing problem

I just don't know why I have not before now posted here an example of the kind of edit that caused me to list this article at WP:CP. I apologise for that, particularly as more than one editor has suggested that there is nothing to worry about here. With this edit editor FloraWilde added this text:

It is found in sandy or gravelly soils between 2,500' and 7,500' in Creosote scrub and Joshua Tree woodland communities of the northern, eastern, and sourthern Mojave Desert.

Mojave Desert Wildflowers, by Pam MacKay, has on page 214 this text:

This plant grows in sandy or gravelly soil between 2,500' and 7,500' in creosote bush scrub and Joshua tree woodland in the northern, eastern and southern Mojave Desert.

I don't see how such very close paraphrasing can be justified. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for citing an example. I use the same template structure (in my head) for general sentences on each plant section, "It is found in A soil type, at B elevation, in habitat C, at location D." where I might mix the order of A, B, C, and D, and randomly order elements inside each. In writing a hundred articles, this is statistically bound to randomly create sentences that appear to be copyright violations of field guides which have the same very finite information. Since Juslettersandnumbers made the two comments, I have been going back and checking my sentences against the source to make sure this has not occured, and changing this order or breaking up the sentences if it has presented information in the same order as the source so as to be, or appear to be, a copyright violation. I could reword this sentence, but the entire article was taken down because of a problem or (justifiably) perceived problem with this one sentence. FloraWilde (talk) 11:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I've now rewritten that sentence, and some others that seemed too close to the source (see below). I'm not a botanist, so please feel free to correct any errors I may have introduced. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:16, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: Mojave Desert Wildflowers, by Pam MacKay. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and according to fair use may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:16, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks User:Justlettersandnumbers

Thanks User:Justlettersandnumbers.[1] :) FloraWilde (talk) 14:31, 11 August 2014 (UTC)