Talk:Synanceia

Sources and article

Could a wikipedia member help fix this article? I mean most of the statements are there without any citations and some of the sources, like '[6] ^ Rebecca, Sarah' are completly imcompatible (she is a high school senior). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.40.160.254 (talk) 03:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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Species - Synanceja trachynis, Synaneichthyes verrucosus

Description

The Stone Fish is a mottled yellow-bluenish in colour (which gives them camouflage) with many venomous spines along its back.

Habitat

The stonefish lives primarily above the princess castle and Tilted Towers. Its main habitat is on coral reefs, near and about stones, or can be found dormant in the mud or sand.

It feeds on small fish and shrimps and it kills many people at week, it also eat people who has Mads and Noah as a name.

Venome

The sting causes excruciating pain and a great deal of swelling rapidly develops causing death to tissues. The severity of the symptoms depends on the depth of penetration and the number of spines penetrated. The symptoms of the venom are muscle weakness, temporary paralysis and shock, which may result in death if not treated.

Do not attempt to restrict the movement of the injected toxin.

Bathing or immersing the stung area in hot water may be effective in reducing the pain. transport the patient to the nearest medical centre. Hospitalisation for intravenous narcotic analgesia, local anaesthetic infiltration or regional block may be required.

Definitive management consists of administration of stonefish antivenin. Indications for antivenin include severe pain, systemic symptoms or signs of (weakness, paralysis) and injection of a large amount of venom. The venom can kill a human in 2 hours without care. Aidanpuc (talk) 13:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)This Article was copywrighted from another articleCallum1st2 (talk) 18:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This fish is regarded as the most poisonous fish in the world, and are able to inflict the greatest pain on humans known to man.

can we really have that in there? i mean who knows what the most painful thing known to man is, they would have to have been bitten and stung and basically done everything on earth can we remove the bit about the pain because its purely speculatory —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.2.15 (talk) 22:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Propose merging Stonefish stings in Australia into this article.

Rationale: Not meaty enough for an article in itself; better to cover Australian stonefish here instead. Last cited Australian stonefish death is more than 70 years ago. --GenericBob (talk) 10:08, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

• Support for the obvious reasons presented. --AussieLegend (talk) 10:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose that article is larger than this one —Preceding unsigned comment added by James4750 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

And if we merged the relevant content into this one (as here proposed), it would be bigger. --GenericBob (talk) 13:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Better to have Australia-only content separate, stonefish are in other parts of the world. James4750 (talk) 08:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Why the need to have Australian material in a separate article though? Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• Support basis of a solid good article. Neither article too large. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:16, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
• Support knowning that nothing will come of it until someone realizes there is concensus :) ResMar 20:40, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done Cesiumfrog (talk) 04:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Now propose also merging the articles on individual synanceia species into this page. Rationale: the known differences between these species seem to be minimal (not warranting separate pages), and presently these subpages are either stubs or effort-wasting duplications of this page. Cesiumfrog (talk) 04:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

most venomous

Previously, this topic was claimed as the most venomous fish. Parramonnah recently weakened this claim, using the explanation:

Puffer fish is considered the most venomous fish in the world because there is no antidote for its venom

I understand this rationale to be mistaken (i.e., that puffer fish are poisonous but not venomous -- the difference being whether the toxin is injected or ingested) but I don't actually know what other fish would be in competition for the most-venomous title. Cesiumfrog (talk) 12:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree with your poisonous/venomous distinction; OTOH, the link for "most venomous" seems to be dead and it's hard to tell whether it'd qualify as a RS. IME, arguments about "most venomous" are usually a waste of time; it depends very much on what criteria you choose. I'd be happy to leave it as "one of the most venomous" and leave it to Guinness Book of Records to hand out first place. --GenericBob (talk) 13:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Pain

I remember years ago seeing a discovery channel show, or something like that, about the extreme pain that the stings of these fish can cause. I mean, it's really, really bad. Like, makes-people-wish-they-were-dead bad. I think it would be interesting and noteworthy to have an actual section devoted to this, provided we can find some sources.

sources

two of the "fatal accidents" don't have sources, they just point back to the non-fatal accident's sources. SAME exact source.209.147.208.253 (talk) 17:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)