Talk:Synalpheus regalis

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Untitled section edit

Hi everyone,

I am currently adding information to Synalpheus regalis. I'll be working on this for a day, so please don't add/detract right now! Thanks! Alexliu818 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I saw this notice too late. I haven't messed around with the content at all, though, just formatted the content that was there. Good work! --Stemonitis (talk) 06:55, 10 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Peer Edit edit

Good job on starting your own page! I think it was a great beginning to a page that will soon be complete. My edits included mostly grammatical fixes, but you did a good job and maintained clarity throughout. The page does need some pictures added, and more background and other information besides behavior, though I won't hold it against you as this is a behavior class. A consideration you may want to take into account is your description of experiments. You describe the experiment and the results, which is helpful, but perhaps not necessary. It seems to me like you would be able to make a statement and then just back it up by putting the source. This would lead to a more concise behavior section and allow you to not rely on a single experiment (hopefully others have backed it up or used it for other studies). Katims90 (talk) 22:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I think this article is awesome! There are very few grammatical mistakes. I just did some minor changes, including adding some inline links to other Wikipedia pages and a heading "Behavior and Ecology" to include all the related materials. To make it more consistent throughout the article, I changed several "Synalpheus" to S. regalis. I agree with what Katims90 said above that it will be good if you can upload some pictures and add more background information such as description, life cycle or even fishing as some other shrimp articles have done. I know this is beyond the scope of behaviors but it would be nice if you help finish well what you have started! --Tianyi Cai (talk) 01:06, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Really admirable work with the completely new wiki entry! I added a few links to assists other wikipedians in navigating the page. The article, I felt, was very complex and I feel many people may actually have a rather difficult time following the concepts mentioned. Perhaps add some clarifications or descriptive modifiers. I agree with the above statements, mostly in the sense that PICTURES would be awesome. Unfortunately, I know how difficult it can be (more annoying than anything else) to add photos, especially if these photos do not exists on Commons yet. Perhaps clarification on some concepts like eusociality or their breeding colony structure would only benefit and not harm. (Timothy Yung) TKYung (talk) 02:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC) This is a very intersting animal since it is one of the few eusocial arthropods outside wasps, bees, ants, and termites. It should be high on importance for this reason. Are you going to fill it out? Agelaia (talk) 05:43, 11 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Synalpheus regalis/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

  • I don't think that the use of a non-free image can be justified here. Have you done an thorough internet search to find a free image?
  • "Synalpheus regalis is a shrimp[2] that commonly live in sponges of coral reefs along the tropical West Atlantic." - 'is' is the singular form, but "commonly live in" is the plural form. Be consistent; 'shrimp' can be singular or plural, so it doesn't matter which this is, but please be consistent.
  • The lead contains information which is not covered in the body of the article. See MOS:LEAD
  • What you have written about the animal's behaviour is fantastic, but is there further information out there regarding its discovery and etymology, niche and habitat or evolution?

I will continue the review once these points have been addressed. —Andrewstalk 06:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Due to there being no substantial activity to address these points, I am closing the review now. With some expansion and addition of info regarding evolution and discovery etc, and a copy-edit for prose quality and MoS compliance, this article should make it to GA next time. Good luck!

P.S., I am going to remove the non-free image as it doesn't meet WP:NFCC. Adabow (talk) 21:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteriaReply

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:  
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:  
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:  
    C. No original research:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    B. Focused:  
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:  
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  

Taxonomy edit

Adhering to edits requested in the past, I created a taxonomy section and also added some information on the discovery, behavior and etymology. Any additional information for the taxonomy would be useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximilianzhang (talkcontribs) 17:52, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

The info was a bit outdated. As of 2013, there are at least seven species identified as eusocial among Synalpheus. S. "rathbunae A" has also been formally described as S. elizabethae in 2007 (in the meantime S. "rathbunae B" and S. "rathbunae C", have been identified as S. rathbunae and S. regalis respectively).-- OBSIDIANSOUL 20:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Editing page edit

To make the page broader in scope, as suggested below, I added a section on appearance and habitat as well as a subsection below behavior on colony structure. In terms of appearance, I expanded on its coloring, male/female differences, and its morphological differences that separate it from other eusocial shrimps. I could not find much on habitat besides the two sponges in Jamaica/Belize it exists in. The section on colony structure explains a possible reason for the eusocial structure of the shrimps in clearer terms than was previously mentioned. NK2015 (talk) 16:27, 22 September 2013 (UTC) NK2015 (talk) 16:19, 22 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Many of the links I had created for the new sections were ambiguous so I fixed them. I also realized that I had not properly attributed one of the sentences to the correct source, so I corrected that. NK2015 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC) NK2015 (talk) 19:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I removed the internal Wikipedia hyperlinks that linked to other Synalpheus species because they were non-existent (those links came up in red and did not lead to actual Wikipedia pages). 19:12, 26 September 2013 (UTC) NK2015 (talk)

I have reverted it. Please see the WP:REDLINK guideline. Despite being visually unappealing, red links are actually good and should be created for the first instance of everything in the article that is relevant enough to the subject, and notable enough to have an article (regardless if they do or not). They encourage additional article creation (for example, I wrote one on S. microneptunus after reading this article), as well as remove the requirement (and the additional hassle) for revisiting the article and linking them again when the articles have been created.
I have also changed the first sentence of the lead paragraph. It should be clear that it refers to "a species of shrimp", not simply "a shrimp" (which confusingly implies it's a single individual). It's also a collective noun. It can be referred to in plural or singular depending on the context. In this particular case, it should be plural. I've also narrowed it down to the actual family.-- OBSIDIANSOUL 20:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Life cycle edit

I created the life cycle section into the article and also added a few images. I tried looking for free images without any license but the images I found had CC-NC license. I used the Wikipedia non-free content use guideline as closely as possible to cite the images. I am also currently going through the text to see if there are any links that may be useful to the text. Jychoe90 (talk) 00:56, 27 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

I added the images back on the page. I was able to get permission from the author of the image to use them in this wikipedia page. Jychoe90 (talk) 03:53, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Images edit

I'm afraid I've had to delete the images which were used in this article as they were, as far as I could see, only released under a non-commercial Creative Commons license, and so were not free enough for Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. It may be worth contacting the author to ask if (s)he would be willing to release some images under a more free license. J Milburn (talk) 15:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Synalpheus regalis/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 07:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • Too many missing citations, please fix this before renominating. FunkMonk (talk) 07:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Photos? edit

The BBC's Blue Planet featured this species. This may be a good source for some photos. 2601:642:C481:4640:0:0:0:6FB7 (talk) 04:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately those images are copyrighted. --awkwafaba (📥) 15:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia Ambassador Program course assignment edit

  This article was the subject of an educational assignment at Washington University supported by the Wikipedia Ambassador Program during the 2012 Fall term. Further details are available on the course page.

The above message was substituted from {{WAP assignment}} by PrimeBOT (talk) on 16:57, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply