Talk:Symphony No. 2 (Prokofiev)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by ELSchissel in topic Thematic links
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Nickname? edit

I have never heard this nickname. Could someone please cite a source for it? Otherwise I'll delete. --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 17:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I find it as a quote from Prokofiev-- he states he wanted to write a work of "iron and steel." Grove gives the quote, though without explicitly stating that it comes from Prokofiev. But since it's the best source I could find on short notice, I've used that. Dekkappai 19:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Much better...I am well aware of how P referred to it, but had never heard the phrase used as an actual nickname. --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 20:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Since it does not appear to be an actual nickname, I'll remove "Iron and Steel" from Template:Prokofiev symphonies. Also, I notice that the keys of the symphonies on the template, whether major or minor, all use upper-case letters (e.g. "No. 2 in D minor"). I'm tempted to put the minor keys in lower-cases, but don't want to kick up a controversy when I'm still a new editor in this field. Is this "D minor" standard here? Dekkappai 21:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Form of the Piece edit

The theme of second movement of the piece does not come from Beethoven's Op.111 Piano Sonata. On the other hand, the two-movement structure of the piece: Sonata-Allegro, and Theme and Variations, does resemble Beethoven's Op.111 Piano Sonata. Maestroukr 00:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Recordings edit

This list is far from complete, and I'm wondering how much value it really adds anyway. --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 01:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

"The symphony, little-known and rarely performed, remains among the least-played of Prokofiev's works" edit

citation probably not given because- well... erm... clearly false?? Just as one of his symphonies alone it gets played and recorded more often than a number of his miscellaneous piano pieces, The Tale of the Stone Flower, Zdravitsa, and other much more rarely-produced works. It's... almost certainly the least-played of his symphonies (except maybe the original version of symphony no.4?) and among the less-often played of his multi-movement large-orchestra works (e.g. symphonies, concertos (counting piano concerto no.1 as a 3-movement work for continuity :) ), ballet suites for orchestra, etc.) but to claim it's among the least-played of his 130+ (plus works without opus number) works and groups of works in all would probably be disproven by any attempt to do a reasonable assessment of the composer's work performance history... Even as I write it's being performed in Amsterdam within two weeks (March 10th 2018). Schissel | Sound the Note! 01:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thematic links edit

There seem to be some with Héroïde funèbre (Liszt's symphonic poem), at least audible when listening to arrangements - 2-piano and solo- of the latter work. It might be interesting to know if Prokofiev was familiar with this work, which is based on material intended by Liszt to be the first movement of a larger Revolutionary symphony, at that (iirc) ELSchissel (talk) 17:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply