Talk:Swaminarayan Temple, Ahmedabad

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Amakuru in topic Requested move 26 April 2018

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--Redtigerxyz Talk 14:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks, Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 14:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • SEE Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches: "Responding to queries about reliable sources" and provide sources to prove above is RS.
  • "Swaminarayan Mandir, Ahmedabad" may have an elaborate formal Sanskrit/Hindi/Gujarati name like most Hindu temples like "Shri Vitthala-Rukmini Mandir" of Vithoba temple, Pandharpur. Please include if it has one
  • Akshardham (Delhi) is a good example to follow in terms of layout.
  • My suggestion:
    • History: Merge Relations with the British Government in History, according to chronology : note "The land for construction of this first shrine of Swaminarayan Sampraday, was gifted by the British Imperial Government in India to Swaminarayan" is repeated
    • Architecture: ref for layout [1], include details about the deity images in resp. section
      • NarNarayan Dev Temple
      • Akshar Bhuvan
      • Haveli
      • Rang Mahal
      • Baio-ni Haveli etc.
    • "Secular Area" can be merged in a section about the temple's earthquake relief work
    • Adminstration: Any trust? Acharya etc.

--Redtigerxyz Talk 14:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • Name changed to official name: Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Ahmedabad - thts the full name.
  • Changed the layout
  • Guess u meant heritage walk - done tht.
  • Trust is for the Narnarayan Dev Gadi - Acharya is the trustee.

Do you have further suggestions? Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 22:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 31 March 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus for any particular title, but support for a move is evident; moving to Swaminarayan Temple, Ahmedabad per other articles in its category, with no bias against a further request at any time, including to the more specific title suggested by In ictu oculi. Dekimasuよ! 10:35, 15 April 2018 (UTC)Reply


Kalupur Swaminarayan MandirShree Swaminarayan Mandir Kalupur Ahmedabad – The name has been incorrect which does not match the website. 58.178.214.158 (talk) 04:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 10:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Reply


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Requested move 26 April 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. The argument in support is that the official name is something different, but they are not addressing what the WP:COMMONNAME is in English. Evidence provided by Cuchullain indicates that the current title is the common name. Also, as noted below, this does not particularly affect the names of temples etc. with Shree in the name - where those are titled that way through proper noun, it's fine to include Shree, and WP:HONORIFIC doesn't apply to this article or other buildings with a proper name.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2018 (UTC)Reply



Swaminarayan Temple, AhmedabadShree Swaminarayan Mandir Kalupur – The organisation name is mispelt wrongly. If you visit our website this is the correct name, all our social media accounts have same name. The organisation was named as Shree Swaminarayan Mandir Kalupur. On Wikipedia other religious temple use Shree and Mandir then why cant this organisation use. Check on google maps for correct name https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Shree+Swaminarayan+Mandir+Kalupur/@23.0296679,72.5894513,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x395e8437baaaaaab:0x6a54d2d87e043de4!8m2!3d23.029663!4d72.59164. Do not sign this. Nndkalupurmandir (talk) 07:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC) --Relisted.  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  10:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Relist note: members of WikiProjects India and Hinduism have been notified of this request.  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  10:13, 3 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Setting "Mandir" aside, it is true that there are a large number of articles on temples that use "Shree." Though its use is rare overall, I agree with the proposer that this should be dealt with in a standardized way. It is also clear that Shree is an honorific, and that honorifics are deprecated in titles. I have done the best I could making a list of the other articles that use variations of Shree; if there is agreement that "Shree" should not be used for temples, these are most of the articles that might be affected:
Long list
Has there been a specific discussion somewhere on the use of Shree in relation to temples? Is there a place to start one, or should this be made some form of a multimove request? I think a multimove request of this scale might not go very well. Dekimasuよ! 15:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Note also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)#Titles and honorifics: "In keeping with the neutral nature of Wikipedia and wider policies, honorifics should generally not be included with names, unless they are part of an external quotation. It is common in devotional texts to precede the name of deities (gods), and sometimes revered individuals with the English term 'lord', the Sanskrit 'sri' or other appellations. These should be omitted in Wikipedia articles and the simple name should be used; e.g. 'Krishna', not 'Sri Krishna', 'Lord Krishna' or other forms." This appears to be aimed more towards people/deities than temples, however. Dekimasuよ! 16:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Honorifics are fine in proper names. We wouldn't call it Peter's Basilica or Petersburg. The question is whether this proposed name is the common one.--Cúchullain t/c 15:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
You'd probably be best served by having a RfC on policy, proposing usage of 'Shree' where it is prevalent in the common-name. Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/India-related articles would be a good venue; just post a link on the India Noticeboard so people are aware. Cesdeva (talk) 09:39, 27 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose A primary source (the organisation's website) isn't sufficient for establishing common-name. Every RS reference that I managed to access (before i fainted from linkrot exposure) did not use 'Shree'. Cesdeva (talk) 19:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.