Talk:Susenyos I

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Lekrest in topic Date of Battle of Gol

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WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 03:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Name edit

Susenyos seems to be a more common name (608 vs. 498 google hits; many of the latter are Wikipedia copycats), and it is more accurate in terms of transliteration (there are no dipthongs in Semitic languages, so the "ios" would have been pronounced "i'os," which is an incorrect implication, as it's pronounced "iyos" because it's spelled with a "y").

Yom 05:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm responsible for that choice -- as well as selecting "Fasilidos" over "Fasilides". I don't remember why I chose the one form over any other -- except to enforce consistency & make it easier for whoever has the expertise to pick the correct form to then find & change all of them. No one has spoken up about this (although I occasionally find edits that change the name to another spelling -- & break the link). -- llywrch 19:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well, I'm guessing you already know, but based on the number of hits for Fasilidos vs. Fasilides, I moved the article and corrected all links (I probably haven't changed all unlinked spellings, though). Looking back, I should have used Fasilidas, but I don't particularly feel like making the move right now. If you don't object, however, I'll probably move Sissinios to Susenyos (and make all the corrections necessary) tonight or at a later date. Also note my proposal regarding the Rulers and heads of state of Ethiopia.
Yom 20:17, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Update: Yom, last night I was surprised to discover that "Sissinios" is the Greek version of this name: it appears in the Chronicle of Theophanes as the name of a general of Emperor Constantine V of Byzantium! While this argues further that the name should be changed to Susenyos, it does require that this alternate form needs to be mentioned in ther article, just as many European versions of names are. -- llywrch 22:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
That makes sense. That explains why I found the name of my dad's friend on a Magic Card once, too. I won't have time to do any moves or major edits for a couple days, so you should go ahead and make the move.
Yom 04:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Susenyos & Catholicism edit

Someone tagged this section as needing references; however, references are generally provided only if the information is not generally accepted. One does not need a reference to state that a given president of the US is an American citizen, for example. Most of the information in this section is generally accepted (check any history of Ethiopia), & there are a number of sources cited in the section as it stands. Lastly, there is no indication which statements are problematic, so adding sources might not answer the objections the tagger had. (This is one reason why adding templates to articles do not always lead to making them better articles.) Hence I removed that tag. -- llywrch (talk) "references are generally provided only if the information is not generally accepted" - that's not actually true. References are needed for everything that is not general knowledge. Such tags are useful to ensure that information that is accurate but not sourced is not outright deleted. Str1977 (talk) 22:43, 17 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Date of Battle of Gol edit

Yaqob says 1606, this article says 1607. DuncanHill (talk) 00:53, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Bruce, vol. 2 p. 259 is very clear on that date. I updated the reference and removed the banner. User:Lekrest (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Lekrest: From your statement, it's unclear which is the correct year. If it's 1606, then you accidentally wrote 1607 in the "Reign" section. If it's 1607, then the intro and the infobox for this article need to be corrected, as well as the dates in the Yaqob article. Since it appears that you are familiar with the sources, you are in the best position to make the edits. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 04:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Lekrest: It's one year later. Will you be able to reconcile the text between the two articles? Thanks. howcheng {chat} 21:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The date I have is 10 March 1607. See Mohammed Hassen. Lekrest (talk) 00:38, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply