Talk:Suicide in Sweden

Sunlight

Is there a correlation with suicides and the sunlight (when it appears)? There are two censored suicide videoclips from famous swedish bands, the one "My Favouritte Game" from The Cardigans and the other "Anyone" from Roxette. Both made in a bright sunlight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.85.172 (talk) 21:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Lack of reliable facts

This article is full of errors. Since 1960 Sweden has been rumored to have the highest suicide rate. Likely because of lack of statistics from other countries and a mix up with Switzerland (by an American president?). This text presents something without backing of facts. An article in NY Times' is not facts? In addition suicide statistics are not always reliable. Suicides can be recorded as accidents due to cultural and political reasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.227.253.248 (talk) 17:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Myth and Subjective Comparison

By comparing apples, pears and pineapple one can claim anything.

"... in the First World" is an imprecise selection, especially when Wikipedia defines Sweden as part of "the Third World" merely because the nation did not partake in any World War. On top of that, most people do not know which countries belong to which "World", thus rendering the comparison useless.

In the next sentence, "the continent" suddenly becomes the outline, and not much farther down the rate is compared to "other industrialized nations". This is ridiculous, and on the same level as deliberately trying to hide the truth.

• The chart compares only numbers for 6 nations.
• The United Kingdom is used as comparison without any data supporting the statement.
• The link to the alleged OECD data does not work, so you will have to look those numbers up yourself. In their table of 2012, only 16 countries out of 34 are included. The USA and the UK are for example not, but Sweden there places as number 8. That, to me, is the Middle.

So, neither the UK nor the USA belongs to "The First World"? And, along with 16 other nations, neither the UK nor the USA belongs to the OECD?

• The term "still remains" is not substantiated, and has no visible date.
• The NYT article is full of expressions like "Numerous studies" and "relatively high rates", but refers only to US numbers. It therefore disqualifies itself as a source for anything Scandinavian.

In my brief research of later years (I could not find complete numbers for any year later than 2012), Sweden's suicide rate was below both those of the UK and the USA, and placed as number 10 out of 18 countries. That, to me is in the middle, and totally negates the silly "still remains".

It is almost tempting to believe that those people that claim the mix-up of Switzerland and Sweden could be correct.

This is not an article worthy of Wikipedia status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.209.12.249 (talk) 10:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Socialised eugenics?

Sweden has had a very long history of eugenics, and have had an active government eugenics programme that existed well into the 2000s. However while clinical eugenics is removed, Sweden often segregates and impoverishes disabled people, especially from low income households. Often subjecting them to demeaning treatment and negligent standards of living. Considering how the suicide rates spiked at a time when eugenics in Sweden were at their worst in the 70s, with several scandals of carer/nursing staff abuse among people with mental illnesses, and a common trend of police violence, and so on, I believe this explains it better than most theories about dark winters.

I don't think you can compare Sweden to just any other country when they have a government that both historically and also presently declared an entire segment vulnerable to suicide as people who were unworthy of life. There's an obvious statement of intent there.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.69.180.157 (talk) 07:30, 5 July 2019 (UTC)