Talk:Suicide/Archive 8

Hatnote and trigger words

I'd propose to have the phrase "kill yourself" not appear in the intro of the article. Read in the wrong mindset can act as an imperative trigger phrase. - Klein Muçi (talk) 00:48, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

The hatnote is currently unnecessary as Kill yourself no longer redirects to Suicide, but instead to Kill Yourself, a disambiguation page. This change was made without discussion by an IP in July 2021 and warrants discussion, so I have nominated it at RfD. If the consensus in that RfD is to target this article, then the hatnote should remain; otherwise, it can be removed. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

I have removed the hatnote, since it's unnecessary. If the RfD decides to move it back here, then I guess we'll have to add the hat note back, but it seems unnecessary. I am sympathetic to those who point out that the language is triggering. It is at least jarring. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 08:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Lower-case kill yourself should redirect here instead of to treatment of things that use it for a title. The concept of triggering is triggering. ("Wikipedia is not censored" is specifically posted and linked at the top of this page.) Even so, to avoid legitimate trauma or ill effects, it'd still be better to handle the topic down in the #See also section rather than at the very top of the article. — LlywelynII 19:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)