Talk:Stochastic parrot

POV

I think that a bit of re-examination may be warranted for this article. I think a major issue is that -- well -- is it true? The article just repeats a bunch of conjectural claims as though they're fact, without any real evidence for or against. To wit: LLMs "ultimately do not truly understand the meaning of the language they are processing" -- well, okay, what does it mean to "understand"? What does it mean to "truly understand"? Do we have any evidence that somebody has empirically tested this claim by coming up with an operationalized definition of "understanding" and then measuring whether or not these models do it? If not, then it is not a real thing; it's a hypothesis.

Compare: "A bloofgorf is a Wikipedia editor who has rough green skin and lives under a bridge and likes to argue on talk pages and is stupid". Wouldn't it be pretty relevant whether or not anyone had ever seen one of these, or taken a picture of it, etc? We would want to see some evidence that these things really existed, or that someone at least had a reason for thinking that they existed besides publishing a paper saying "Wouldn't it be crazy if these were real???". jp×g🗯️ 06:12, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

You tags are both inappropriate. All the AI producers acknowledge that the LLMs do not actually understand language. Most of the sources are not the original article, which is cited only twice while there are 13 other sources! Skyerise (talk) 11:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

My "understanding" is that the consensus in the field is that a LLM cannot do problem solving, and therefore is not said to "understand", but that does get into the Turing test and definition of "understanding" and no, I don't have sources saying what the consensus in the field is. (though maybe some could be found, otherwise "opinion" in the lead works). ---Avatar317^(talk) 01:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: WRIT 340 for Engineers - Spring 2024

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 26 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Maria Panicali, Alleeejandro, Nchan103, Quiescent Quail (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by 1namesake1 (talk) 23:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Education editors are advised not to change the referencing style. Once works are listed in a "Works cited" section and linked using {{sfn}} templates (this is called CS1 style referencing), they should never be moved back into ref tags inline in the article. Since the first student editor (@Alleeejandro:) did this, I have had to revert all the subsequent additions. I may try to fix them later, but it is the responsibilty of new editors to educate themselves about referencing styles and rules before editing articles. Skyerise (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for helping us with our contributions; we will do our best to apply what we've learned and not let this happen going forward. 1namesake1 (talk) 16:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Great. Thanks! Skyerise (talk) 19:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)