Talk:Stew pond

Latest comment: 2 years ago by BilledMammal in topic Considerations

Sources to possibly use edit

  • Page 55 of "Food and Wine Festivals and Events Around the World", documenting the existence of Stew Ponds belong to the King on the River Foss.
  • https://www.jstor.org/stable/2848143 - Pg 346, describing Stew Ponds on the River Foss being "impaired" by the rains of 1315. Confirm this against https://books.google.com.au/books?id=CnUfAAAAMAAJ, pg 262 (Feb 1, Lincoln)
  • https://doi.org/10.1007/s10152-004-0203-5 - "A brief history of aquatic resource use in medieval Europe". Might be better suited to an article about pre-modern aquaculture, but does touch on Stew Ponds.\
  • https://doi.org/10.3366/anh.2014.0215 - "Petrus Magni and the history of fresh-water aquaculture in the later Middle Ages". Specifically in regards to the work of Petrus Magni, but does cover other fish ponds in Scandinavia in general
  • https://doi.org/10.1007/s12520-018-0640-8 - "Dukes, elites, and commoners: dietary reconstruction of the early medieval population of Bohemia (9th–11th Century AD, Czech Republic)". Covers diets in Bohemia in general, but does touch on fish ponds that should be useful, either for general writing or a specific section on Fish Ponds in Bohemia or Central Europe.
  • https://doi.org/10.1186/s13002-020-00410-3 - "Ethnoichthyology of freshwater fish in Europe: a review of vanishing traditional fisheries and their cultural significance in changing landscapes from the later medieval period with a focus on northern Europe". Focuses on fishing in general, but has useful coverage of fish ponds, primarily in Northern Europe but touching on Central Europe.
  • https://www.jstor.org/stable/27671181 - pg 22 (1 in source) brief mention in the introduction of how Stew Ponds were converted to ornamental purposes in the 18th century in Britain, though a more extensive source is required.
  • https://doi.org/10.2307/1587038 - pg 106, Appendix I. Mentions, but discounts, the possibility of a stewpond at Westminster Abbey.
  • https://www.jstor.org/stable/1985 - pg 365, discusses the behavior of Pike in stewponds. Specifically, the occurrence of cannibalism where the food supply is insufficient.
  • https://www.jstor.org/stable/1586978 - provides a lot of detail on the difference between holding ponds and breeding ponds, as well as which one "stew pond" refers to. However, this may be disputed. Provides information on how fish were harvesting from the breeding ponds, as well as the frequency of harvest. Provides information on how they were a status symbol in medieval europe, and how holding ponds were used until the 18th century as a form of "preservation".
  • https://www.jstor.org/stable/41371181 - mentions how an old Stew Pond (uncertain whether referring to a holding or breeding pond, but given the size required likely the latter) was resusiated as a flood control basin. Useful for explaining the use of these sites after their decline.
  • Fish - Food from the Water - pg 51 to 57 discuss the use of fish in the diet of the medieval period, and in doing so explicitly provides some context for the use of stew ponds.

BilledMammal (talk) 03:57, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Considerations edit

Three or four types of fish-stocked ponds.

  1. 1. For the storage of fish for consumption (Stew Ponds)
  2. 2. For the breeding of fish for consumption - possibility overlapping with 1.
  3. 3. For keeping the water clear
  4. 4. For piscatorial amusement

Ref: https://doi.org/10.2307/1587038 BilledMammal (talk) 04:14, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

There is some dispute over what a stew-pond refers to; whether it refers to the vivarium (breeding pond) or the servatorium (holding pond). Currie writes that the use of the word has changed with time, and originally referred to the vivarium's, with this confusion having been exacerbated by modern fish farming practices, where small ponds are used for breeding and large for holding, a practice that is the opposite of medieval practice.[1]. However, others have continued to refer to the holding pond as the Stew Pond, including Collins writing in 2011 (NOTE: Confirm). BilledMammal (talk) 06:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Currie, Christopher K. (1990). "Fishponds as Garden Features, c. 1550-1750". Garden History. 18 (1): 22–46. doi:10.2307/1586978. ISSN 0307-1243. Retrieved 19 June 2021.

Images to use edit

Storing images that are intended to be used in bringing the article out of start class

Consider Merging edit

Might be worth merging this article with Fish pond; Fish Pond has a broader scope, but depending on the scale of the article it may be worth considering all the same. BilledMammal (talk) 08:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)Reply