Talk:Stephen of Anjou

"Duke of Slavonia"?

The only source not marked with {{better source}} doesn't use the phrase "Duke of Slavonia", rather "Prince of Slavonia". Besides, they held the purported title for one year, while they held the Transylvanian title for three years. Something's off here. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 00:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

According to Pál Engel, "Louis and Stephen were given the titles of duke of Transylvania and duke of Slavonia respectively by their father, though this did not mean that they effectively governed their provinces." After King Louis I's return from Naples, "Stephen was first given the government of Transylvania; then, in 1351, he became duke of Croatia and Dalmatia and also that of Slavonia two years later." Upon Stephen's death, the duchies were inherited by his son John, the new heir presumptive to King Louis, and administered by Stephen's widow and John's mother Margaret - even after her remarriage. Curiously, articles about John and Margaret are better sourced than the article about Stephen. I don't see anything off, though. Surtsicna (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

What is off is that Slavonia did not have a "Duke", there was a Ban of Slavonia at the time. I guess what you're saying is that this was a made-up title? If so, what is the most commonly used name for Stephen in the sources? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:35, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't see what could have prevented an Angevin king of Hungary from assigning any territory or title to his son. Engel says: "When he died in 1354, at the age of 22, his province passed to his son, John, who was under the guardianship of his mother, Marguerite, daughter of Emperor Louis of Bavaria. In the spring of 1356, when the war with Venice broke out, the court decided to put an end to the autonomous status of the duchy. Slavonia was provisionally placed under the government of a lieutenant (incarius), who recovered the title of ban when the little prince died in 1360. Croatia and Dalmatia were likewise taken from the hands of Duchess Marguerite and bestowed upon another ban in 1357. Henceforth Croatia and Slavonia were to have separate governments until 1476, although on occasion (as between 1397 and 1409) the same ban governed both provinces." Surtsicna (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

@Swetoniusz:

Please, do not ignore an ongoing debate on the Talk page of Mary, Queen of Hungary. Please do not rever other editors' edits, because it may have serious consequences as per WP:3RR. Borsoka (talk) 11:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please, stop lying as ignore debate. I show arguments and could not see any reasonable arguments for other option. Please, stop putting information that mislead readers. Swetoniusz (talk) 13:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please read and apply WP:civility and avoid personal attacks. Please discuss this issue on the above mentioned Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 13:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please, stop lying about me. Swetoniusz (talk) 13:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please read and apply WP:civility. Sorry, I will not continue this childish debate on this Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 13:16, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Władysław I of Poland in academic publications could be both Władysław I Herman and Władysław I Elbow-High. See also Wladyslaw I of Poland. I do not why Surtsicna [1] and Borsoka are putting link to disambiguation page [2]. I will put a direct and precise information into articles. Swetoniusz (talk) 13:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

We do not put link to disambiguation page. Borsoka (talk) 13:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

My fault, Wladyslaw I of Poland is disambigaution page, Władysław I of Poland was not. I do not why somebody make this distinction. Swetoniusz (talk) 13:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)