Talk:Stenogastrinae

Latest comment: 4 years ago by JoergenB in topic Systematics: Differences of opinion exist.

Hover wasps as mentioned in the article are social wasps. Thus I believe that more information should be given about the interactions of different ranks of wasps and altruistic behaviors amount kin or random individuals. While the colony dynamics was addressed this was more in the context of sex ratios and relatedness rather than altruism. (Akinjenn (talk) 22:39, 11 September 2014 (UTC))Reply

Systematics: Differences of opinion exist.

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The systematic position was not undisputed, when the section first was written (non-formatted) here, in 2013, and is so less now, I think. I am not an expert, but from the little I've read today I got the impression that there was some kind of 'almost consensus' then about the systematics; but the original author also provided a reference from 2007 with a different conclusion. Unhappily, when the article was wiki formatted by User:Materialscientist, the important words "but see also" were removed (probably by accident), yielding the false impression that also the Hines et al. reference supported the 'almost consensus' findings. Now, I've just read a newer article (Piekarski et al., Molecular Biology and Evolution, Volume 35, Issue 9, September 2018, Pages 2097–2109), which reports the conclusions from a more thorough search (with respect both to the number of species and the number of loci), landing rather heavily on a Hines-like phylogeny. I doubt that this is the last word on this issue, but I do think that it suffices for presenting also the alternative phylogeny in our article, precisely as an alternative. I'll try to do this. JoergenB (talk) 20:01, 31 December 2019 (UTC)Reply