Talk:Star Wars: Episode VIII/Archive 1
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Should this be moved to the mainspace?
Hi, filming began today, so should this technically now be moved? It's four days on Skellig Michael, due to seasonal issues, before they have to move production in Ireland elsewhere (near Derry I think, though maybe it was Kerry considering its proximity to Skellig Michael), where they will continue for a few more weeks I believe. This is not second unit filming - Johnson is directing these scenes, Mindel is shooting them, both of the film's producers are in attendance (Bergman and Kennedy), as well as at least Hamill from the main cast - but it seems this is being shot a few months prior to the rest of the film's apparent shooting schedule (January 2016 according to Making Star Wars, whereas Del Toro claims he doesn't begin till March 2016, though he could be being purposefully misleading). I'm not sure what should be done, so I'm putting it here instead of just jumping the gun and going straight ahead and moving. I have no preferences either way, I just think it needs a discussion before anything is done. Cheers -- Nbdelboy (talk) 16:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Even if it isn't second unit, I don't believe it is "principal photography" which is required to begin per WP:NFF to move to main space. I think the March 2016 date is a safer bet for moving it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:40, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- WP:NFF says we need to wait until the film has begun principal photography. Wikipedia's article on this subject, which is linked at WP:NFF, states, "Principal photography is the phase of film production in which the movie is filmed, with actors on set and cameras rolling, as distinct from pre-production and post-production." Granted, second unit photography probably doesn't fit this category exactly. However, if what @Nbdelboy: says is true about filming continuing over the next few weeks with Johnson, Mindel, Hamill, and the producers, I believe that would qualify as principal photography. Given all that, I think that at some point soon, the film will commence principal photography of some sort and it should be moved to the mainspace at that point.-Rmaynardjr (talk) 17:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- But we don't have much info about the film ie a cast. That isn't to say that Lucasfilm hasn't already done that and it isn't public knowledge, but generally having cast members is a requirement to be filming. And Nbdelboy doesn't provide any reliable source supporting the fact that Hamill will be there, or that they are moving elsewhere after filming on Skellig Michael. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- WP:NFF says we need to wait until the film has begun principal photography. Wikipedia's article on this subject, which is linked at WP:NFF, states, "Principal photography is the phase of film production in which the movie is filmed, with actors on set and cameras rolling, as distinct from pre-production and post-production." Granted, second unit photography probably doesn't fit this category exactly. However, if what @Nbdelboy: says is true about filming continuing over the next few weeks with Johnson, Mindel, Hamill, and the producers, I believe that would qualify as principal photography. Given all that, I think that at some point soon, the film will commence principal photography of some sort and it should be moved to the mainspace at that point.-Rmaynardjr (talk) 17:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- The article can be moved to the mainspace if it is notable enough. I've debated that with other eds. and it would likely come down to a !vote. IMO, the time to move it to mainspace is probably close, but not yet. I would rather put it into mainspace sooner rather than later, rather than fend off requests and edits putting it in mainspace anyway. If Johnson is doing directing in Ireland and Hamill is there, then it's hard to call it second unit. That's typically done by an assistant director and has none of the cast. Though it could be a teaser trailer or after-credits scene or something for the E7 DVD. We'll see soon enough. Alaney2k (talk) 22:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)