Talk:Standoff at Eagle Pass
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can someone add missouri to the support list edit
https://krcgtv.com/news/local/parson-missouri-will-send-national-guard-troops-to-texas-southern-border 2601:87:8300:27F0:BDCC:48F4:F138:15A2 (talk) 03:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- There is a article stating that there is more than 25 states on texas side 172.56.51.188 (talk) 03:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that information should be added to the page. I just can't understand why nobody here will do so. This is an historical event, and it should be documented accurately. 98.20.148.59 (talk) 12:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
This needs a separate page about the ongoing internal conflict between the US and Texas edit
GreatLeader1945 (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- that is a fact 172.56.51.188 (talk) 03:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. I suggested that on January 31st, but my proposal was rejected.
- Special:PermanentLink/1201477912#Requested move 31 January 2024 98.20.148.59 (talk) 12:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Someone needs to a seperate page about Senate Bill 1403's Interstate Border Compact edit
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/html/SB01403F.htm
Basically Abbott recently signed a bill into law which authorizes the creation of an interstate compact for the purposes of border enforcement, intelligence, armed personnel and economic resources. I think this warrants its own page Corpo44 (talk) 03:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Missouri should be added to the list of states that support Texas edit
Yesterday, Missouri governor Mike Parson announced that he is sending National Guardsmen to the southern border.[1] This information should be added to the page. 98.20.148.59 (talk) 12:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done With due deference to the fact that Wikipedia is not the news, this does seem significant enough to warrant inclusion (especially as the other states which have committed troops are already present). Drummerdg (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Article needs to be updated for February edit
This article contains no updates for February 2024--I added the banner at the top. Also I support keeping Extended Confirmation Protection for now, but if there continues to be no change in the legal or physical situation, I would support reducing protection to semi-protected because the event will be in retrospect. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Declare the standoff over (Maybe) edit
What really has happened since the deadline ran out? I think Biden sanctioned Texas...and then what? Nothing, the Texas border guard has just been doing what it's doing since Abbot gave them the order. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think this article has been updated (except the Date updates) at all during February. Unless Biden does do something else, I think it should be thought of as over, barring future developments that may occur, in that case, don't consider it such. BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne (talk) 03:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- And if there have been developments in February, that should be represented in the article. BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne (talk) 03:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Texas is appealing, but a district court just granted an injunction against the law (SB4) Texas is using to try to take over immigration jurisdiction. https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1763283008713625920?s=20 2600:1700:3811:C5C0:FC69:54C6:ED47:ED9E (talk) 23:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- This seems to have fizzled out—I'd propose merging it into Operation Lone Star. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree, it should be labeled as over, and also, the end date for it should be pushed back to an earlier one. BurnerAcountOneThousandAndOne (talk) 18:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- In my opinion the standoff is over, but litigation over the US-Texas-Mexico border is ongoing, and this article is part of Operation Lone Star. I support keeping the article, but I agree the standoff is likely over. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
add tennessee edit
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tennessee-national-guard-deploying-southern-border-biden-admin-fails-act-gop-gov-says 2601:87:8300:27F0:D540:2413:9B17:13E (talk) 00:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
A federal court has just said the Texas immigration law can go into effect edit
Add that to the infobox. And to the end of the article. Com Pinkerton Leter (talk) 18:14, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I went to the Supreme Court's website, and Justice Alito granted his own administrative stay of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals administrative stay. I'll add one sentence, but I won't add any outcomes because this is a current event and can change rapidly. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 March 2024 edit
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the standoff is not over. i would also like to add the existing states who have signed bills and sent their national guards in support of Texas. Thomas2008tw (talk) 04:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 18:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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Date is wrong Ilovehistory2011927 (talk) 12:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 16:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 March 2024 edit
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Add the following, "A base, entitled 'Forward Operating Eagle', has begun being constructed at Eagle Pass, and can house up to 2,300 soldiers."
This has been covered in the news, and has warranted a Forbes article. See: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesfarrell/2024/02/16/texas-building-military-base-camp-at-eagle-pass-amid-showdown-with-border-patrol/?sh=59e15dab1a71 Kingofmapps (talk) 18:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done, with your wording and I made the link a source.
- IMO this article no longer merits EC protection, as the physical standoff is over and mainly involves ongoing litigation. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Already done M.Bitton (talk) 13:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
End date? edit
It seems to me that the end date is a bit inaccurate. While I agree with some other comments of the talk page about it having "fizzled out", it was still ongoing well into January and is atleast technically still ongoing.
Here are some reports from Febuary and one from March: https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/video/eye-on-politics-bipartisan-border-bill-fails-as-standoff-in-eagle-pass-continues/ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/standoff-eagle-pass https://www.newsweek.com/texas-military-razor-wire-migrant-crisis-greg-abbott-1878647
I would show the date as either 11th of Jan-present for now and then, until it either ends or a proper date for it having "fizzled out" is chosen, switching it for said date. The current set date of the 29th is not really accurate as far as I understand. Iska-Germany (talk) 22:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good, I'll make a change regarding this. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 15:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
The extended confirmation protection has been lowered to semi-protection. edit
I convinced the administrator to lower the protection, as this page has become much less controversial and heavily edited. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Merge proposal edit
I'd propose that we merge this article with Operation Lone Star, as now that the news has died down the long-term significance of this 'standoff' has turned out to be questionable. See also WP:PERSISTENCE. Ed [talk] [OMT] 01:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)