Talk:Staggered Crossing

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Elektrik Shoos in topic Lack of sources

Infobox band

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Can someone in the know fill out an {{Infobox band}} for this page? --Doradus 15:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Lack of sources

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In attempting to cleanup this page, I've noticed that there are an astounding lack of sources for information in this article. To wit:

  • A Google News search for "Staggered Crossing" turned up only around 300 results, and most were related to actual staggered crossings.
    • When I narrowed it down to "Staggered Crossing" band, I got 4 results, and what was shown only mentioned them in passing.
  • Google Books and Scholar turned up the same as above, except a search for "staggered crossing" band turned up absolutely nothing.
  • A regular Google search turned up many, many results, but nearly all of them are useless as sources. (Most of them are lyrics sites, fake MP3 downloads, and such.)

I'm not sure what to do here. If anyone can find sources for this, by all means. Otherwise, I'm going to need to at the minimum gut the article of all unsourced statements, which at this point is nearly the whole thing, or list it for deletion if there aren't enough sources to establish verifiability of any of the information in this article. elektrikSHOOS 05:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

In addition to two primary sources (one of which has WP:COPYVIO issues: either copied from or to this page) I've added a couple of very short reviews that count for next to nothing except to verify a couple facts about the band's collaborators. I've posted requests for assistance here and here. --Whoosit (stalk) 22:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for listing there. I'm going to continue looking, but given that I'm not a native of Toronto (or Canada) I'm not sure what I can provide other than online searches. I'm going to revisit the sources question in a month, and if there's no substantial improvement by then I'll be forced to list it for deletion. elektrikSHOOS 23:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Admittedly, this is going to be a tricky one. They were essentially a one-hit wonder band whose time in the spotlight had already passed by the time it became de rigueur for reliable source publications to actually publish their content to the web — they even titled their subsequent album Last Summer When We Were Famous — so referencing it properly will almost certainly involve digging through newspaper and magazine back issues in a library somewhere.
For what it's worth, the article was created a long time ago, when Wikipedia's rules around sourcing were much more loosey-goosey than they are now. So I'll certainly see what I can do to help out, though unfortunately they may also end up being one of those bands whose properly sourceable notability fell off the cliff as Wikipedia's rules tightened up. Bearcat (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Notability wasn't the criteria I was concerned about. If most of the statements made in the article are true, and I have no reason to doubt most of it, the article definitely passes WP:BAND. The standard I'm holding this article against is WP:V - if an article lacks reliable sourcing than none of the information can be verified, and its encyclopedic value falls apart.
It appears as of right now that enough has been added to pass a bare minimum of the above standards, though improvement is definitely needed. Again, I'll help where I can, however limited that may be. elektrikSHOOS 06:30, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply