Talk:Sredny Stog culture

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 2A02:8108:9640:AC3:9422:31DF:2049:880F in topic Characteristics

Request to move

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The name of this article is based on the false assumption that the Russian name is the conventional designation. There is no evidence of that and therefore I move that the article be moved to "Seredny Stih", as currently used in Ukrainian. Thanks, Horlo (talk) 11:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Object, There is no evidence that Ukainian version is most commonly used in English either, hence just leave it "as is" unless you have a positive evidence. `- 7 bubyon>t 07:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thank You! Though a false transcription of the THEN Russian find location, we should not translate traditional literature with every changing political borders. Nevertheless, in order to locate them, it is often advisable to add the actual name, and even coordinates, regarding the abundance of double names particularly in the former Soviet area.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:B097:A996:D994:3964 (talk) 14:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Kurgan hypothesis

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Thanks User:AnonMoos for putting the Sredny Stog culture back in the Kurgan hypothesis. As I understand it, the original version put PIE near the southern end of the Urals, and a little to the west, c 5500 BC. From there the Kurgan complex is said to have expanded throughout the Pontic-Caspian region. However, as more evidence came in the center of gravity seemed to shift to somewhere in the neighborhood of Kiev c 3700 BC, with Sredny Stog as a likely candidate for one of several cultures that merged into PIE-bearing culture (possibly early Cucuteni-Tripolye B). In any case, Sredny Stog is definitely a major player in the modified Kurgan hypothesis, especially the J P Mallory version. Zyxwv99 (talk) 15:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sredny Stog could have possibly been more "pre-proto-Indo-European" (or bordering on pre-proto-Indo-European) than proto-Indo-European as such, but it still has relevance for the problem of Indo-European origins... See "The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World" by David W. Anthony for recent theories AnonMoos (talk) 21:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Not "Balkans"

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Srednij Stog was NOT in "the Balkans" and consequently, the part "are distinguished from the other cultures found in the Balkans by the way they" had to be removed. Poor geographical knowledge!2A02:8108:9640:AC3:B097:A996:D994:3964 (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

"at Alexandria, Ukraine" misleading

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The "Aleksandriya" at the coordinates correctly given with 49.71, 37.58 after the original paper of the excavator, D.Ya Telegin (1959: 10) is NOT the Aleksandriya near the Dnipro, as the term "at" may suggest, but an isolated, now deserted farm at Kupryansk on the river Oskol south of Charkiv. Therefore, this farm Aleksandriya does not appear in any map, not even the Soviet 1:100 000. The name is misspelled in Mathieson, correctly by Anthony. HJJHolm (talk) 09:30, 19 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Characteristics

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Plesee read the whole chapter before adding double entries. Thank you.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:9422:31DF:2049:880F (talk) 06:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC) Further, Fortson is a fine linguist, however, no serious source for archaeological entries, which here, anyway, are rather confused.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:9422:31DF:2049:880F (talk) 07:05, 7 August 2021 (UTC)Reply