Talk:Sprigatito, Floragato, and Meowscarada

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Latest comment: 11 days ago by TrademarkedTWOrantula in topic GA Review

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The romanji for ニャオハ would be nyaoha, ニャオ being the Japanese equivalent of meow, so maybe meowa is a better transliteraton than nyahoja (unless you're trying to transliterate to Spanish?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.54.219 (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Sprigatito, Floragato, and Meowscarada/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 02:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 05:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply


Woah! What's with all these Pokémon invading my GA nomination list? TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 05:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Anyway, I'll do the obvious stuff first, and then I'll get to reviewing tomorrow (I really need some sleep). TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 06:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I dunno. Do you happen to have any Poke Balls we could catch them with? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pokelego999: I have finished reviewing your article. Please ping me if you are done making changes; I have to be somewhere. Thank you. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 23:57, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@TrademarkedTWOrantula a few notes on certain points
-I've left the mention of "the video games" in the lead due to the fact it gives context for those unfamiliar with the games.
-The first four points of "conception and design" are in reference to a copypasta thing that is used on Pokémon species articles in order to provide background context for the series. As a result, any of the stuff in there is not inherently related to the article, but good to have regardless. In any case, the reference to items can probably be slashed if you still feel it needs to be, given the recent GAN I did for Mimikyu had me remove the reference to evolution, given that Mimikyu has no evolutions.
-There is no information on how these Pokémon were made, and this info tends to be rare for most Pokémon overall, especially recent ones. Given usual standards, this should not detrimentally impact the article's ability to become a Good Article, since it's based off of the existence of sourcing. In any case, the separation of this section is mostly just to give background information not inherently tied to their Appearances in the games.
-The information pertaining to Nemona and Clavell is relevant given it shows what happens to the Sprigatito from the start of the game if the player does not choose it.
-The specific reference to Liko's Sprigatito evolving is due to the fact that this is an individual Sprigatito who acts as a major character in the anime series undergoing the process. Given that evolution traditionally tends to be a major factor in the anime series for the Pokémon characters, it's notable to include and is separate from the usual biological process described for generic Sprigatito.
-I am unaware if Chappurin is a pseudonym or not, but in any case, the source appears to be reliable, so I don't think it'll impact anything notable.
-Social media web forums is how it's addressed in the article, if I remember correctly. I just included it as they described it so as to not make assumptions about their intentions.
Outside of that, addressed the rest of your comments as best as I could. Let me know if anything else needs changing anywhere. Thanks for catching a lot of the weird wording, I can't believe I missed some of this, lmao. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. For the most part, the prose is smooth. I did clarify a few awkward phrases at later parts of the article, so all is resolved. Technical terms have been clarified.
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Lead section is a little short. Lead section is of adequate length. Layout is correct per MOS:LAYOUT. Not that many words that are present on the WTW list. Fiction is out-of-universe. List incorporation policy does not apply.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Spotted no bare URLs. Reference section is in the correct place.
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). Article is well-referenced with (mostly) reliable sources.
  2c. it contains no original research. Spotchecking proves that there is no original research, albeit I had no time to check a good portion of the sources.
  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. Immaculate! The top result is only at a 5.7% similarity according to the Earwig report!
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. While I do think the conception and development section doesn't talk about how these Pokémon were made, I think it was a mistitle, so I'm gonna let it slide. Other aspects of the topic are broadly talked about.
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Article does not contain fancruft.
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Article is neutral.
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Article is stable.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Both images are tagged with the correct copyright status. Valid fair use rationales are provided.
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Images are relevant and have suitable captions.
  7. Overall assessment. I'd pass on Meowscarada.

Copyright violations edit

Initial comments edit

  • It kind of triggers me that Floragato is standing off a little bit too far away, but the image is fine.

Sources edit

  • Any CBR article published after 2016 is considered unreliable per WP:VG/S.
  • Can't seem to access reference #25 (Gach 2022). Link leads to unrelated article published recently.
  • Lot of situational sources, but I've checked all of them, and they seem to be fine.

Lead edit

  • Not sure if we need "the video games" before "Pokémon Scarlet and Violet".
  • since their initial appearance, they have appeared in multiple games including Pokémon Go and the Pokémon Trading Card Game -> "they have since appeared in multiple games..."
  • Link "grass-type" to Gameplay of Pokémon#Pokémon types
  • Sprigatito is a small green cat - Not sure why Floragato and Meowscarada's designs aren't described (you could probably cut this part of the sentence)
  • the designs of its evolutions -> "...and the design of its evolutionary forms"
  • "in comparison" -> "compared"
  • Could use some expansion.

Conception and development edit

  • Cut "the video games" (the phrase "these games" is used a sentence later)
  • "Specific items" - Like the sun or a stone? (just asking for clarification)
  • Not sure if a URL could be provided for book source (Allison 2006)
  • Very well written! Nice work.
  • Link "experience" to experience point?
  • Come to think of it, this section doesn't cover any of the three Pokémon's development or how they were made...
  • In the anime, Sprigatito is voiced by Kira Buckland in English and Megumi Hayashibara in Japanese. - Doesn't really add to the section (just states voice actresses only; also link "anime" to Pokémon (TV series)

Appearances edit

  • "It evolves" -> "Sprigatito evolves" (vague pronoun)
  • If the player chooses a different Pokémon, Sprigatito will either be owned by Nemona or Director Clavell, depending on which is chosen. - Not sure why this is relevant
  • it slowly begins to warm up to her -> "it begins to feel affection for her..."
  • Sprigatito eventually evolves into Floragato. - Wasn't Sprigatito's evolutions said a few sentences earlier?
  • "in promotion" -> "as promotional material"

Reception edit

  • Sprigatito was well-received by fans and critics, considered a cute Pokémon. - Feels like a sentence fragment
  • In a poll of Famitsu readers -> "In a Famitsu poll..."
  • of the votes
  • found Sprigatito number two, behind Fuecoco -> ranked Sprigatito in second place behind Fuecoco.
  • It also ranked number two in an Inside Games poll, receiving more than 36 percent of the vote, with Inside Games writer Chappurin noting that its cute design helped make it popular. - Is "Chappurin" a psuedonym? Also, see my next bullet point on how to reword this sentence:
  • "Inside Games writer Chappurin felt its cute design led to it ranking second in the magazine's (or website's(?)) poll, in which it received 36 percent of the votes."
  • Not sure what meaning of "design concept" is being used here
  • with many focusing
  • Link bipedalism?
  • Better to say "Marshall" after introducing her
  • "Luchador" needs a link IMO
  • citing the change from the "sweet little" Litten into the "raging, bipedal luchador" Incineroar as an example of a drastic change -> "...citing the drastic change from the 'sweet little' Litten into the 'raging, bipedal luchador' Incineroar."
  • "Remain on all fours" is a bit informal
  • social media web forums (?)
  • despite the fact it evolved to stand on two legs - Feels like editorializing (which I believe is something to watch)
  • "design aspects"?
  • "while also" -> "additionally"
  • while also stating that it had become stylish while maintaining its cat-like design. - Design aspects repeated?
  • Word "propensity" is used twice
  • This concern over it standing was due in part to fans not wanting Sprigatito to become rugged. - Rugged???
  • felt that the reason
  • Despite the reluctance about this, according to Chappurin, its evolutions have begun to grow on fans. -> "Despite complaints, people have [I just need a formal word "calmed down"] on its evolutions(?)."
  • Cut "particularly"
  • Automaton Media writer Hideaki Fujiwara -> Hideaki Fujiwara of Automaton Media
  • felt that Meowscarada
  • Meowscarada's tendency to become jealous was also stated to have influenced Meowscarada's popularity somewhat. - Merge with previous sentence?
  • conducted by GameWith
  • Meowscarada was noted as the third...
  • Might want to specify that the later GameWith poll happened exactly a year later
  • There have also been worries about Sprigatito evolving to develop sexual characteristics. -> "Critics have shared their worries on Sprigatito developing sexual characteristics (would "tendencies" work?)"
  • felt that the series (franchise?)
  • led some players
  • Meowscarada's bipedal design and approximately similar height to the player lead some players to make it seem like they were kissing the Meowscarada. - Ayo!? What the f-
  • "as potentially being an element to its design" -> "as a potential design element"
  • "with Sprigatito evolving to be bipedal out of affection for its trainer" - That's just... uh- yeah. Smash.

Spotchecking edit

I will spot check four references at random. (I don't have time.) Reference numbers are of this revision.

  • #16  Y
  • #22  Y
  • #28  Y
  • #35  Y
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