Talk:Spit (album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs). Almost a year in the queue. 07:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for starting a review on this article. I thought that the article would never get reviewed. Anyways, what are some things in the article that should be fixed? Statik N (talk) 19:15, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

These:

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

   See below

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Resolved comments from Tbhotch

;Lead "approached the record label's second-in-command, Jake Weiner." -> approached Jake Weiner, the record label's second-in-command. "Weiner signed the band" -> 15 words ago you used "the band", use a synonym. " in London, Ontario during the summer of 1999." -> same as above. "Spit was moderately successful," -> Is no more? The infobox mentions "Paperdoll" as a single, but there is no mention of it in the lead. "The nu metal album has elements..." -> Spit is a nu metal album that has elements... "mixed-to-positive" -> It received mixed or positive (or generally positive)? You should mention Garth Richardson's production somewhere. Background and recording NG was acquired -> {{when}} Music "hip hop" -> "scream-rapped backup vocal" is not hip hop as rapping is a style and hip hop is a genre. B-sides -> link it "An AllMusic review" -> {{by whom}} hatred, ignorance and sexism -> Except for hatred, it is almost a copy-paste from the source. Lyrics There are too many quotes here, reduce them. Promotion, release, commercial performance and touring I suggest spliting release and commercial performance and merge it with Critical reception (and create an independent subsection {or subsections} like Misterioso (Thelonious Monk album)#Release and reception). Leaving it as Promotion and touring. (RIAA)[3] on -> (RIAA),[3] on File:Kittie Charlotte music video.jpg fails WP:NFCC#8 as there is no critical analysis of the image, or the music video. Although you "cannot show a picture of a music video through only words", you can describe it. In this still, there is no educational value that is lost. Also fails WP:NFCC#1 (marked as n.a), as free pictures of Atfield might exist that can replace the image. File:Kittie Dynamo 2000.jpg fails the same criteria. "Spit peaked at number 79" -> {{when}} Critical reception "mixed-to-positive" -> Same as lead, they are mixed or positive (or generally positive). Same as Lyrics, reduce the quotefarm. References 2: Author missing (full name is John Huff) 6: Access date is missing. 11: Issue, volume and/or page are missing. 12: Volume and issue are missing. 13: Authors missing; 11 February 2015. Retrieved 29 April 2015. (invert them for consistency) 14: "MUST HEAR" -> "Must Hear" (WP:ALLCAPS) 16: Author and date are missing. 18: Author is missing. 20: Author and location are missing. 21: Issue and volume are missing. 28: Access date is missing. 29: Access date is missing. 32: WP:ALLCAPS. 34: "Metal Edge, June 2001" is not enough. 41: Access date is missing. 49: Access date is missing. External links Remove "Hello Kittie" and "Kittie Bio" as they are being used as sources. "Category:Obscenity controversies in music" -> How?

These are the main issues that I found. Article on hold. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 23:09, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Citation 21 doesn't need an issue or volume because it doesn't have those. It's a book. Some of the citations that don't have an issue or volume or page doesn't have issues, volumes, or pages because I couldn't find them. Citation 32's last name is actually spelled as "vanHorn". As for the obscenity controversies in music category, there's the quote in the body: "Spit was controversial because of its song titles, which made many people think that the album's songs are about sex". Statik N (talk) 00:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

@Statik N: For Citation 32 I was referring to a title, not to vanHorn. I was about to approve the GAN, nevertheless, this suddenly happened. I cannot approve an article with an edit-war and the release dates are unsourced (except for "Paperdoll" that is supported by source 40). Resolve the conflict, and ping me when it's done. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 01:49, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

By the way, Backrish and Charlotte charted on the UK Top 100. This can be mentioned. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 01:57, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

All single dates are now sourced. I sourced "Charlotte" in the body. Statik N (talk) 02:33, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

OK then. Article approved. Good work. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 04:06, 9 September 2017 (UTC)